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Originally posted by Pail42:
I second Volcanon's recommendation:

Propaganda
War Tax
Ghostly Prison
Crawl Space

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yeah, but that deck doesn't come with those cards ( only propaganda). my playgroup opted to not include additional cards to make the games fun.

So does that deck just suck if not playing with additional cards?

like I said, most spells are pretty wacky, but overly expensive.

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Originally posted by Myy:
yeah, but that deck doesn't come with those cards ( only propaganda). my playgroup opted to not include additional cards to make the games fun.

So does that deck just suck if not playing with additional cards?

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Not all the decks are created equally, especially if playing 1v1. In the first round of commander decks the Kaalia of the Vast deck felt far stronger than all the others.

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Originally posted by junichi:
I am currently putting a foil silver border EDH deck together using cards from holiday promos, Unhinged, and Unglued. I had to steal my gf's nail polish remover to remove the black border from random foil basic land.

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Suggestions for commander and cards?

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Wanting to build WUG enchantress for fun, no OP combos or serious control.

Suggestions for commander and cards?

I have mostly the normal stuff in the list already, like all enchantreses, enchant tutors

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Angus Mackenzie or Rubinia Soulsinger. Jenara is also cool if you get something like Mirari's Wake online.

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Just looking for fun stuff I haven't heard of, there are a lot of enchants/enchant related things out there

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Any individual card suggestions? I wasn't going to play any serious combos, there are a couple but no serious means of getting them to fire off, and I wasn't going to use anything very powerful like Conscription or humility.

Just looking for fun stuff I haven't heard of, there are a lot of enchants/enchant related things out there

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For casual I would avoid stupid stuff like Enchanted Evening + Opalescence or Aura Thief. I would think that's pretty obvious though.

Enchantments you can return to your hand were always a favorite when I played Uril. Stuff like Cage of Hands and Flickering Ward can be cheap cantrips with an enchantress in play. They can also help remove a threat or push through damage.

Arenson's Aura was really fun to play with Enchanted Evening, as it creates a little more fairness than some of the "blow up the world" type cards you can run with EE.

Sun Titan is also a very strong card in EDH enchantress, since a lot of the stuff you run is under 3 cmc and it gets blow up frequently.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
For casual I would avoid stupid stuff like Enchanted Evening + Opalescence or Aura Thief. I would think that's pretty obvious though.

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Have Sun Titan, left out Arenson's/Teferi's because spot removal is usually not my style nor a big thing in my two man playgroup.
I play a couple bouncy enchantments and recursion, like the idea of maybe a couple more. Are there other decent ones?

I play Enchanted Evening, Opalescence, and Aura Thief, but no significant means of enabling a combo. I would never specifically try to set it up, and would be particularly rare. They do minimal each on their own though, which at once makes them more acceptable but also a good reason to remove them.

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Who's a general that is fun to play but if the table turns on me can stomp the table?

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I think you can take any combo general and play with them for fun, but still be prepared to assemble something annoying.

Derevi is fun, and you can just mess around with a decent sum of tap-ability creatures that have fun effects like Sigil Tracer, Echo Mage, Arcanis, Skyward-Eye Prophets.
Depending on what you like there are other effects too of course.
If you like to use tutors for creatures/arts/enchants you could include any size package including a mix or all of:
Seedborn Muse, Murkfiend Liege, Prophet of Kruphix, Winter Orb, Static orb, Stoic Angel, Opposition, Glare of Subdual.
Plus any other effects that force your opponent to tap like Kismet/Frozen Aether/Loxodon Gatekeeper, or several others that don't allow untaps. Any number of cards that turn your lands into creatures for Glare. Any creature that says you can tap to draw a card plus Mind Over Matter.
Dead-Eye Navigator + Anything annoying ever, or DEN + Eternal Witness + Time Walk effect.
Charisma + Pinger
Or Beguiler + Freed from the Real.

In great colors for fun and for combos both.

Also, in both a UW and UR deck, do you run Halimar Depths or leave it out?

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Originally posted by Boston:
For artifact removal, would you prefer Viashino Heretic, Vandalblast, or Shattering Pulse?

Also, in both a UW and UR deck, do you run Halimar Depths or leave it out?

Thanks.

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I prefer re-usable effects such as Heretic to one-time spells. But Vandalblast is one of the very best artifact removals. If you have room to run both, they are both worth it.

Shattering Pulse is really expensive. 5cc to destroy stuff is a lot. I know you get to re-use it, but spending 5 mana a turn doesn't allow you to do very much on your own turn. At that point, just pay 5cc to destroy everything all at once Vandalblast-style.

I don't like most come into tapped lands. Most aren't really good enough to justify the turn that you miss.

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Originally posted by choco man:
I prefer re-usable effects such as Heretic to one-time spells. But Vandalblast is one of the very best artifact removals. If you have room to run both, they are both worth it.

Shattering Pulse is really expensive. 5cc to destroy stuff is a lot. I know you get to re-use it, but spending 5 mana a turn doesn't allow you to do very much on your own turn. At that point, just pay 5cc to destroy everything all at once Vandalblast-style.

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Shattering spree is not as bad as you say. You don't have to pay 5 each turn, no one said you have to cast it every turn. Just if you want to keep it, or if you don't need it again just 2.
Vandalblast is also not necessarily better either, as edh is usually social and multiplayer, you may not want to bomb everything at once and **** off a lot of people. Particularly if maybe some of those artifacts also help you.

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Originally posted by Boston:
For artifact removal, would you prefer Viashino Heretic, Vandalblast, or Shattering Pulse?

Also, in both a UW and UR deck, do you run Halimar Depths or leave it out?

Thanks.

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Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
Can I use azorious guildmages ability to counter target activated ability on derevi empyrial tactician using her ability to being played from the command zone?thx

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Yes, you can counter that ability with guildmage

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
as edh is usually social and multiplayer, you may not want to bomb everything at once and **** off a lot of people.

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I play Heartless Hidetsugu, so....people are already mad.

People also get mad at wraths. But wraths are good and needed to balance games.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Why is Trade Secrets banned in EDH?

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Presumably the ridic amounts of draw, technically unlimited. I would also like a real answer as I was wondering that last night.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Presumably the ridic amounts of draw, technically unlimited. I would also like a real answer as I was wondering that last night.

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Originally posted by choco man:
I know all instant-speed removal stops it and it doesn't have any citp effects, but what are chances of deadeye navigator getting the axe?

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