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Kraj and Speaker:
1. EXACT same cc and legendary
2. Both have a +1/+1 counters theme

Are there other legendary pairs available that swap so nicely?

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Originally posted by revenger:
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Originally posted by choco man:

Are there other legendary pairs available that swap so nicely?

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I dunno about multicolor but i play black zombies/reanimate. Typically i use Balthor the Defiled but if my mood changes i can be Geth, Mikaeus, Sheoldred, Lim-Dul, plus i think i have maybe another.

Obviously the Sliver lords are swappable.

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Originally posted by bawitheba:

My tournament edh is
Makiaus of the unhallowed with multiple intimate combos and tutors.

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You are doing it wrong.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Should I change my creature base in my Skullbriar Edh to mana ramp? Currently it is critters/green spells that put +1/+1 counters (or the like- see Increasing Savagery) to green critter mana ramp/green critter/spell utility? (ex: Acidic Slime, Eternal witness). My black spells is currently spot removal.

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Depends on how you want to play it. I have never had a Skullbriar deck, so I can't really say which approach is better. However, I do tend to avoid decks that are too reliant on just the general to win.

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Red double-damage effects like Furnace of Rath and Rage Reflection, and multiple combat steps like Savage beating and Aggravated Assault.

White for good humans and token effects. Decree of Justice, Hero of Bladehold, Elspeth Tirel, Increasing Devotion.

Definitely thinking to play Swords, Stoneforge, Steelshapers Gift, and enough others to make Jor Kadeen worth considering.

I'm interested in artifacts/enchantments that give abilities to all creatures, such as Concerted Effort, Akroma's Memorial, Eldrazi monument.

Would like to stick to an Angel/Human theme, though that's not the law.

Angels i will probably figure out but a little lost on others.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Suggestions on Aurelia EDH? Focusing on

Red double-damage effects like Furnace of Rath and Rage Reflection, and multiple combat steps like Savage beating and Aggravated Assault.

White for good humans and token effects. Decree of Justice, Hero of Bladehold, Elspeth Tirel, Increasing Devotion.

Definitely thinking to play Swords, Stoneforge, Steelshapers Gift, and enough others to make Jor Kadeen worth considering.

I'm interested in artifacts/enchantments that give abilities to all creatures, such as Concerted Effort, Akroma's Memorial, Eldrazi monument.

Would like to stick to an Angel/Human theme, though that's not the law.

Angels i will probably figure out but a little lost on others.

Will play Spellbinder + Savage Beating, Aggravated Assault + Sword of Feast and Famine.

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sacrifice outlets - phyrexian/ashnod's altar, diamond valley, high market, Miren, the Moaning Well, previously mentioned forays, greater good, I'm sure there is something else here...

big mana: gaea's cradle, mirarri's wake, possible mana reflection, etc

..... but then I'm stuck. It seems like I'll be required to generate a bunch of mana in this deck just on the concept of the general alone, but then I have no idea what to do with it. Casting eldrazi or huge genesis waves is so 2010. I think I'll likely have mirari's wake and collective blessing, suppose I should consider coat of arms as well. What other direction can I take this deck? or are there some cards that can push the attacking w/ tokens theme over the top? Something as simple as intangible virtue seems incredibly weak so I'd like a loose theme with a little more punch. It most certainly doesn't have to be based on attacking with the tokens, but thats all I've got so far.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Suggestions on Aurelia EDH? Focusing on

Red double-damage effects like Furnace of Rath and Rage Reflection, and multiple combat steps like Savage beating and Aggravated Assault.

White for good humans and token effects. Decree of Justice, Hero of Bladehold, Elspeth Tirel, Increasing Devotion.

Definitely thinking to play Swords, Stoneforge, Steelshapers Gift, and enough others to make Jor Kadeen worth considering.

I'm interested in artifacts/enchantments that give abilities to all creatures, such as Concerted Effort, Akroma's Memorial, Eldrazi monument.

Would like to stick to an Angel/Human theme, though that's not the law.

Angels i will probably figure out but a little lost on others.

Will play Spellbinder + Savage Beating, Aggravated Assault + Sword of Feast and Famine.

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I think you're already on your way with most of those things you mentioned.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
I'm currently working on building a Hazezon Tamar EDH deck. So far I've got the obvious down:
a bunch of search for land put into play effects - perilous forays, cultivate, skyshroud claim, etc... boring and straight forward, anything that isn't obvious here?

sacrifice outlets - phyrexian/ashnod's altar, diamond valley, high market, Miren, the Moaning Well, previously mentioned forays, greater good, I'm sure there is something else here...

big mana: gaea's cradle, mirarri's wake, possible mana reflection, etc

..... but then I'm stuck. It seems like I'll be required to generate a bunch of mana in this deck just on the concept of the general alone, but then I have no idea what to do with it. Casting eldrazi or huge genesis waves is so 2010. I think I'll likely have mirari's wake and collective blessing, suppose I should consider coat of arms as well. What other direction can I take this deck? or are there some cards that can push the attacking w/ tokens theme over the top? Something as simple as intangible virtue seems incredibly weak so I'd like a loose theme with a little more punch. It most certainly doesn't have to be based on attacking with the tokens, but thats all I've got so far.

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Yeah, don't use the regular anthems (Intangible, etc.) use the ones where the +X/+X is grows geometrically (aka the awesome ones Coat of Arms, Shared Animosity, Cathar's Crusade, etc.)

If you don't need the ramp, take it out in order to play cards that are actually cool. Ramping land is normally better than double mana (Reflection, Wake). Unless you play fat guys, greater good is not very good. In a token deck it might not be used fully.

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Originally posted by choco man:

Are there other legendary pairs available that swap so nicely?

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2 I like in my BRG deck.

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If attacking with huge tokens isn't enough, abuse come into play triggers. Gain lots of life. Please don't flame me for suggesting life gain.

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I think you're already on your way with most of those things you mentioned.

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True, but i need to know more to finish the deck. I've found most additional combat step cards and it's easy to search angels, but there's plenty in magic/edh that i've just never heard of and probably wouldn't find through searches.

Besides the angel creatures, i plan to do human/soldier theme. Plenty of soldier love, decent human love. I just like Angel of Glory's Rise a lot.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
I'm actually looking at using congregate. Not sure how it will play out though. I think you make a valid point on just getting more lands over things like mana reflection. I'm just slightly concerned about how expensive my general will be as I intend for it to be dead often. I'll have to get it up and running to see how it does I suppose.

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Congregate is usually worth 20-40 life in a multiplayer game.
There's also War Report, which with so many mana rocks around is probably worth about the same.

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Originally posted by choco man:
Have you guys been using Angel of Serenity?

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I have one in a UW blink deck. It can get pretty nuts in there.

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Have you guys been using Angel of Serenity?

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Can I play Flesh//Blood In my skullbriar edh deck? how does that work?

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No it has red in its color identity.

The first question is are 38 lands enough to support Mox Diamond, knowing that 9 of them are 'spell lands' like Maze of Ith, Slayer's Stronghold, etc. For that matter is Lotus Petal better than Mox Diamond if all I want is the possibility of getting Kaalia in play a turn faster?

Also, in general, (heh) in EDH games is Despise better than Duress? (I already have Thoughtseize and don't want to spring 7 USD for Inquisition of Kozilek)