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Originally posted by thror:
not quite sure what you're asking? are you giving the other creature -x/-x, or are you giving thassa -x/-x, or all creatures?

If you use something like mutilate to give all creatures -4/-4, that would kill the 4/4 and leave thassa as a 1/1. she would be a 1/1 if she again became a creature during that turn, because mutilate gave her -4/-4 until eot. this is unlike mutavault, which explicitly states 'becomes 2/2'.

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Think you answered my question, it was asked in a very ambiguous way. Essentially I just wanted to know if her P/T got modified, then she stopped being a creature, then went back to being a creature it would track her PT through

Copy Karn Liberated's last ability and copy it with Rings of Brighthearth - You get nothing because you restart the game with all the exiled crap in play, then restart again? Or...?

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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Contaminated Ground is on a Steam Vents. Blood Moon enters play. What happens?

Utopia Sprawl is on a Temple Garden. Again, Blood Moon enters. What happens?

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Type-changing effects are applied in time stamp order (rule 613.2). So first contaminated ground applies then bloodmoon. Contaminated ground doesn't make the land a "basic swamp" so blood moon will turn it into a mountain.

Utopia sprawl will be put into a graveyard. It can only enchant a forest.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
everything on the stack go "poof" including the other copy of the ability.

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Hahaha, i can't believe i missed that. Duh!

Thank you very much.

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Mana Confluence
Land (R)

TAP, Pay 1 life: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

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Mana Confluence
Land (R)

TAP, Pay 1 life: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

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the cost is TAP, Pay 1 life. the effect is 'add 1 mana...'

You can activate this ability as many times as you can pay the cost. However, that means tapping AND paying life. if you can find a way to tap it multiple times, you're welcome to pay more life and get more mana too. but remember, you have to pay the whole cost, including tapping.

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This is legal by the rules:

http://rules.wizards.com/rulebook.aspx?numbers=true&rulenameonly=true&game=Magic&category=Tournament+Policy&q=4.2

"...If a player casts a spell or activates an ability and announces choices for it that are not normally made until resolution, the player must adhere to those choices unless an opponent responds to that spell or ability. If an opponent inquires about choices made during resolution, that player is assumed to be passing priority and allowing that spell or ability to resolve"

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Originally posted by ieatfood7:
but isn't doing that on purpose (baiting them by naming on casting, specifically hoping they will misplay and you can pick a different card) a violation of the rules? it seems unsportsmanlike at the least, and I thought there was a rule against using shortcuts to purposefully take advantage of your opponent.

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You haven't "shortcut" anything by stating your choice early. The rules protect your opponent from trickery by preventing you from changing your choice unless they allow you to change your choice.

The only way this hurts your opponent is:
1. You cheat and change your choice even though they don't respond.
2. Your opponent doesn't understand the rules and thinks you can't - no matter what they do - change your choice.
3. Your opponent doesn't understand the rules and thinks you can - no matter what they do - change your choice.

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Rules question on Resoration Angel and Tidehollow Sculler interaction

I have a sculler already in play with a card exiled I then cast angel targeting said sculler do they get their card back before I pick from there hand or after or does the card stay exiled?

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The restoration angel will end up putting two triggers on the stack and you can choose the order because both events trigger before a player would get priority.

(Leaves battlefield) Return card, and (Enters battlefield) exile card

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
If my opponent attacks me with a Kitchen Finks with a -1/-1 counter on it and a Redcap with a -1/-1 counter and with a archangel of thune, and I block with 2 Giant Bears, do his creatures come back unpersisted? I know the Thune deals damage at the same time as everyone else, and that lifelink is no longer a trigger, but his ability would trigger and his creatures should die due to SBE with lethal damage on them?

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The creatures will not come back.

Combat damage happens at the same time:
The attacking player gains life and damage is dealt to players and creatures.

Then state based actions are checked:
Finks and Redcap die.

Then triggers are put on the stack:
Because Finks and Redcap had -1/-1 counters Persist does not trigger.
Archangel of Thune's lifegain trigger goes on the stack.

Then the active player gets priority:
Players have a chance to react before the trigger resolves.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
The creatures will not come back.

Combat damage happens at the same time:
The attacking player gains life and damage is dealt to players and creatures.

Then state based actions are checked:
Finks and Redcap die.

Then triggers are put on the stack:
Because Finks and Redcap had -1/-1 counters Persist does not trigger.
Archangel of Thune's lifegain trigger goes on the stack.

Then the active player gets priority:
Players have a chance to react before the trigger resolves.

Then triggers resolve:
Archangel of Thune will get a +1/+1 counter.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
I have a Courser of Kruphix in play and I play Read the Bones. Do I reveal both cards that I scry? Do I reveal both cards that I draw?

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Drawing X cards is treated like 'draw 1 card x times'. take each step in action. the top card of your library is revealed from courser, then you scry 2. so YOU look at the top 2, and decide where they go. you dont reveal any card while scrying, but once you're done scrying, you reveal the top card of your library. then you draw one card, reveal the top, draw a 2nd card, and reveal the new card on top.

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Originally posted by wild-ravager:

Ok I've been out of the game for a bit and started back up recently , my question is if I have 2 thorncaster sliver on the battlefield will it deal 2 damage for each attacking sliver or just 1

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From Gatherer:
7/1/2013 If you control multiple Thorncaster Slivers and a Sliver you control attacks, each ability will trigger separately.

each sliver will deal 1 damage, and then deal 1 damage again.

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Originally posted by wild-ravager:
so each one triggers multiple times just making sure I understand correctly

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Yes. Each sliver has 2 triggers when they attack.

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