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Ajd5197
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Does a discard as a result of reality smasher trigger a card like obstinate baloth?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ajd5197:
Does a discard as a result of reality smasher trigger a card like obstinate baloth?


Yes, it works. Loxodon Smiter and Wilt-Leaf Liege also work.

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Is it legit to take notes to a tournament eg: I play Engineered Plague, can I write down creature types used in certain decks before hand so as to know what to name?
 
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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Is it legit to take notes to a tournament eg: I play Engineered Plague, can I write down creature types used in certain decks before hand so as to know what to name?

Yes, you can. You can only look at it during sideboarding though. You could also describe enough of a card to a judge, and they'll give the oracle text for it.

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Cool. Now something I never really thought about.

I have The Rack. My opp has 1 card in hand and a Jace, TMS in play. At his upkeep The Rack deals 2 to him. I know I can redirect that at Jace but, can I redirect part of it, say 1 to him and 1 to Jace?

If not, is it because The Rack now says "The Rack deals X damage to that player" instead of the original wording of "The Rack deals 1 damage to opponent for each"

 
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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Cool. Now something I never really thought about.

I have The Rack. My opp has 1 card in hand and a Jace, TMS in play. At his upkeep The Rack deals 2 to him. I know I can redirect that at Jace but, can I redirect part of it, say 1 to him and 1 to Jace?

If not, is it because The Rack now says "The Rack deals X damage to that player" instead of the original wording of "The Rack deals 1 damage to opponent for each"


No, you redirect the entire effect, so no splitting it up. The wording on the The Rack was updated, but the effect didn't change at all. The damage was always a variable amount; never X occurrences of 1 damage. The old wording was describing a calculation of the damage, not literally, "1 damage for this card, and another damage for this card, etc."

 
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I've been out of the game for quite a while until about a year ago. I'm currently putting together an Artifact heavy/Eldrazi Commander deck.

If I end up with 2 cards in play that each have an effect that reduces the casting cost of Eldrazi/Artifacts by 2 colorless mana, would that mean that the relevant spells could use both of these effects, reducing casting cost by 4 colorless mana total?

Hoping my question makes sense. Thanks in advance.

 
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Originally posted by B-Town:
I've been out of the game for quite a while until about a year ago. I'm currently putting together an Artifact heavy/Eldrazi Commander deck.

If I end up with 2 cards in play that each have an effect that reduces the casting cost of Eldrazi/Artifacts by 2 colorless mana, would that mean that the relevant spells could use both of these effects, reducing casting cost by 4 colorless mana total?

Hoping my question makes sense. Thanks in advance.


Yes. Those types of effects are cumulative.

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Thank you!
 
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Does a Dual Faced Card flipping back to its front trigger a Deathmist Raptor's ability from the graveyard? For example, if I have a werewolf that turns back to a human, will that trigger the raptor?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by superpup on May 19, 2016]
 
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Originally posted by superpup:
Does a Dual Faced Card flipping back to its front trigger a Deathmist Raptor's ability from the graveyard? For example, if I have a werewolf that turns back to a human, will that trigger the raptor?

No. Transforming is not "turning face up". Deathmist only applies to morph cards, and Illusory Mask.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by aethertech:
No. Transforming is not "turning face up". Deathmist only applies to morph cards, and Illusory Mask.

And manifested creatures. Right?

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Originally posted by iccarus:
And manifested creatures. Right?


Potato, potato.

 
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May I have an explanation on how Scapeshift + Valakut interacts with Spellskite? Looking for rules text, if possible.

For example:
>I'm at 18 with Spellskite on board, no untapped blue lands.
>Opponent Scapeshifts with 7 lands in play, fetching 6 Mountains and Valakut, targeting me with all of the Valakut Triggers.
>I pay 12 life to redirect all 6 triggers from Valakut to my Spellskite.
>Triggers resolve.

Do they all shoot Spellskite and I survive at 6? We looked it up and in a forum, some guy claimed that two of the Valakut triggers kill Spellskite, then the rest redirect back to me. Thoughts?


[Edited 2 times, lastly by saw2th on May 19, 2016]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by saw2th:
May I have an explanation on how Scapeshift + Valakut interacts with Spellskite? Looking for rules text, if possible.

For example:
>I'm at 18 with Spellskite on board, no untapped blue lands.
>Opponent Scapeshifts with 7 lands in play, fetching 6 Mountains and Valakut, targeting me with all of the Valakut Triggers.
>I pay 12 life to redirect all 6 triggers from Valakut to my Spellskite.
>Triggers resolve.

Do they all shoot Spellskite and I survive at 6? We looked it up and in a forum, some guy claimed that two of the Valakut triggers kill Spellskite, then the rest redirect back to me. Thoughts?


If you've got enough life to switch targets from you, to Spellskite, then it will work.

The first two 'bolts' hit and kill it, then the rest of the 'bolts' that you switched the target to Spellskite will just fizzle.


They don't redirect back to you.

 
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man, had to necro the rulings thread...

less of a rule but still...

Collective Brutality and the like with Escalate. What is the "proper" way of saying which modes you are choosing upon casting? I haven't played with the card IRL yet so on Cockatrice I have been "saying" 1,3 or 2,3 , etc.. when stating the modes I'm using.

Also, I thought I read where the modes resolved in order as printed on the card, is that correct, eg: I can't say 3,1 in the above example.

Another one just to make doubly sure. If you retrace Syphon Life, after it resolves it goes on top of your graveyard just as if it was cast from your hand, correct?

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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
man, had to necro the rulings thread...

less of a rule but still...

Collective Brutality and the like with Escalate. What is the "proper" way of saying which modes you are choosing upon casting? I haven't played with the card IRL yet so on Cockatrice I have been "saying" 1,3 or 2,3 , etc.. when stating the modes I'm using.

Also, I thought I read where the modes resolved in order as printed on the card, is that correct, eg: I can't say 3,1 in the above example.

Another one just to make doubly sure. If you retrace Syphon Life, after it resolves it goes on top of your graveyard just as if it was cast from your hand, correct?


I would probably say "first and third mode" to be more specific, but the way you say it is fine. It just has to be clear to both players as it goes on the stack.

Anything with modes, or multiple lines of possible text (such as fuse cards) are executed left-to-right and top-to-bottom. So yes, you're correct.

Yes. If you retrace, that card is actually put on the stack from your graveyard and technically returns to the top of your graveyard. This only matters for Vintage and Legacy afaik.

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what could I possibly get in return for about 20K in puca pts? Like cash wise?
 
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Originally posted by daner:
what could I possibly get in return for about 20K in puca pts? Like cash wise?

Don't know the rules regarding that. I don't think anyone does.

 
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RAWR!

I've never played with or against Vexing Shusher.

If I have him in play, I cast a spell, I pass priority. If they cast a counter I can then activate Shusher?

Casting into Chalice. I cast, Chalice triggers, then activate Shusher?

 
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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
RAWR!

I've never played with or against Vexing Shusher.

If I have him in play, I cast a spell, I pass priority. If they cast a counter I can then activate Shusher?

Casting into Chalice. I cast, Chalice triggers, then activate Shusher?


Yes, on both of those. Vexing Shusher's ability still has to resolve, but, assuming it does, your spell cannot be countered. It doesn't stop Spell Queller from doing it's thing though.

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If I control 1 Soulfire Grand Master and resolve a Anger of the Gods that deals damage to 3 creatures total do I gain 9 life or just 3?
 
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9 you gain life equal to the total damage the spell deals
 
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Can't even say necro when every post is necro

Engineered Plague on Merfolk
Lord of Atlantis in play
True-name Nemesis is cast

Is it still a 3/1?

 
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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Can't even say necro when every post is necro

Engineered Plague on Merfolk
Lord of Atlantis in play
True-name Nemesis is cast

Is it still a 3/1?


Yes.

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