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mulder
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posted April 05, 2015 02:31 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for mulder Click Here to Email mulder Send a private message to mulder Click to send mulder an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
If I play Eureka and put into play a Lotus Cobra and a bunch of lands, do I get the mana?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by mulder:
If I play Eureka and put into play a Lotus Cobra and a bunch of lands, do I get the mana?

Yea, but you don't get the mana immediately as the land enters the battlefield. You have to finish resolving Eureka and then resolve all of the triggered effects. You will get the mana as each triggered effect resolves.

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anyone help clear this up for me, not sure the order Avatar of the Resolute has with Evolve? Sounds like Evolve happens after Avatar gets his tokens so he wouldn't be boosted by any that would trigger because of him, correct?

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quote:
Originally posted by Lore:
anyone help clear this up for me, not sure the order Avatar of the Resolute has with Evolve? Sounds like Evolve happens after Avatar gets his tokens so he wouldn't be boosted by any that would trigger because of him, correct?

Correct. Evolve is a triggered ability that goes on the stack after Avatar enters with his counters. The evolve counter is not placed until the trigger resolves (and may not be placed at all if some shenanagins happen).

It would be good to review the release notes for a card like Experiment One.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=366441

 
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I think this works, but just checking:

Suppose I have a Zombie Infestation in play, and I discard a creature card to it plus a Call to the Netherworld after, can I use the Call to the Netherworld to get back the creature I discarded?

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
I think this works, but just checking:

Suppose I have a Zombie Infestation in play, and I discard a creature card to it plus a Call to the Netherworld after, can I use the Call to the Netherworld to get back the creature I discarded?


Yes.

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Ok, a question my buddy had this morning. He wants to somehow work Mirror Entity into U/w Merfolk.

If you use the Mirror Entity's activated ability for two, to make all your dudes 2/2, would Lords also affect them, or would everything just be a 2/2?

Say if you had Lord, Lord, Entity, Master of Waves, I think you'd have an army of 5/5's, but I might be wrong. I don't math good.

 
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The lords would affect them. The only time an effect like that would remove abilities is when it says that they "lose all other abilities." Otherwise, it just overwrites the parts that they change.

EDIT: On second thought, it's not the only way it could lose abilities. Something else could overwrite other things or other stuff could be changed, but hopefully you understood what I meant.
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posted November 11, 2015 06:19 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mulder Click Here to Email mulder Send a private message to mulder Click to send mulder an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hey, a few questions:

- If I play Snapcatser in my opponent's endstep, does the flashback carry over to my turn?

- If my opponent has a few Spheres of Resistance, can I pay for my Treasure Cruise by removing more cards from my graveyard?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mulder:
Hey, a few questions:

- If I play Snapcatser in my opponent's endstep, does the flashback carry over to my turn?


I believe so, but I'm not sure.

quote:
- If my opponent has a few Spheres of Resistance, can I pay for my Treasure Cruise by removing more cards from my graveyard?

Yes.

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quote:
Originally posted by mulder:
Hey, a few questions:

- If I play Snapcatser in my opponent's endstep, does the flashback carry over to my turn?

- If my opponent has a few Spheres of Resistance, can I pay for my Treasure Cruise by removing more cards from my graveyard?


1. No. Snapcaster's effect lasts "until end of turn". Some other cards do what you are thinking of. They last until the "beginning of the next end step."

2. Yes, they add to the cost of the spell and you are paying for the cost of the spell with delve.

 
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Suppose you have a Words of War in play, can you activate its ability multiple times for 1 card draw? Meaning if you have 10 mana open and draw one card, can you deal 20 damage? Or does it count for 1 card, 1 activation?

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quote:
Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Suppose you have a Words of War in play, can you activate its ability multiple times for 1 card draw? Meaning if you have 10 mana open and draw one card, can you deal 20 damage? Or does it count for 1 card, 1 activation?

It only replace one card draw at a time. To do 20 damage you'd have to draw ten cards and spend ten mana.

Words of War creates a replacement effect that replaces the next act of drawing a card with dealing damage. If you activate WoW 10 times then do something that causes you to draw a single card only 1 of those 10 replacement effects will be used up and damage will be dealt. You will still have 9 effects waiting to replace you later draws that turn with damage.

 
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If I play Gilded Drake And with the ability on the stack, I play Perilous Research sacking the Drake, do I still get a creature of my choice?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by mulder:
If I play Gilded Drake And with the ability on the stack, I play Perilous Research sacking the Drake, do I still get a creature of my choice?

No, an exchange only happens if both things being exchanged exist.

 
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Astral Slide is in play. I evoke Ingot Chewer. I stack in order the Chewer's sacrifice then the destroy an artifact.

The destroy resolves. Then I cycle Forgotten Cave triggering Astral Slide. Chewer slides out. Then the sacrifice resolves and since chewer is not in play, it fizzles. EOT, chewer re-enters the battlefield without the evoke clause and the destroy triggers again and the chewer stays in play. Sound right?

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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Astral Slide is in play. I evoke Ingot Chewer. I stack in order the Chewer's sacrifice then the destroy an artifact.

The destroy resolves. Then I cycle Forgotten Cave triggering Astral Slide. Chewer slides out. Then the sacrifice resolves and since chewer is not in play, it fizzles. EOT, chewer re-enters the battlefield without the evoke clause and the destroy triggers again and the chewer stays in play. Sound right?



once it gets exiled, the game treats it as a new object, and 'forgets' that you originally paid for it with evoke. you get to blow up 2 artifacts, cantrip off your cave, and keep your ingot chewer, all for RR and some setup.

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Originally posted by thror:

once it gets exiled, the game treats it as a new object, and 'forgets' that you originally paid for it with evoke. you get to blow up 2 artifacts, cantrip off your cave, and keep your ingot chewer, all for RR and some setup.



You could've just said "yes."

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Alright, The Abyss in play. Nether Spirit in the grave. Now I know the Nether Spirit can come into play in lieu of The Abyss' destroy. But, That Nether Spirit will never be able to attack again as it will die next upkeep, right?
 
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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Alright, The Abyss in play. Nether Spirit in the grave. Now I know the Nether Spirit can come into play in lieu of The Abyss' destroy. But, That Nether Spirit will never be able to attack again as it will die next upkeep, right?

Correct. Unless, of course, you play a different creature to destroy on the next upkeep.

 
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with wastes being a new kind of mana, are artifacts considered monocoloured?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
with wastes being a new kind of mana, are artifacts considered monocoloured?

no, still colorless.

 
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dang!

thought I was clever with ugin's nexus + ugin's construct lol :P

Thanks!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
with wastes being a new kind of mana, are artifacts considered monocoloured?

Wastes do not create a new kind of mana. They produce the same kind of mana Sol Ring has for its entire life. The only difference is there are now cards that care about that kind of mana being used for their costs.

 
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And a new symbol.

But it's the same mana.

 

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