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Originally posted by junichi:
This may sound crazy, but we had an Azusa player awhile ago, and the deck was simply too slow in my meta due to the amount of combos and the lack of interaction with them. I saw your deck list on MTGS though, and it would work if my meta is more "normal & fair".

I might give Rafiq a try, but I will probably have to tune it into a control deck with aggro finish.

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Sounds like a fun, competitive meta. We also like to encourage combo finishes and LD. Anything goes.

Having played Rafiq extensively, I can tell you Rafiq is slower than Azusa by quite a bit. Rafiq is better 1on1 but to kill off a table of 3+ Azusa will get the job done a few turns earlier.

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Originally posted by Swift2210:
Sounds like a fun, competitive meta. We also like to encourage combo finishes and LD. Anything goes.

Having played Rafiq extensively, I can tell you Rafiq is slower than Azusa by quite a bit. Rafiq is better 1on1 but to kill off a table of 3+ Azusa will get the job done a few turns earlier.

If you're playing against fast, dedicated combo they're probably going very light in removal. They will be doing little to hinder your explosion while you can hammer their resources with Sylvan Primordial/Terastodon/Seeds of Innocence/etc, if not outright kill off the entire table.

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I agree that Rafiq will be slower than Azusa, hence if I have to play him, it will have to be control heavy to slow down the paste of everyone else. I also saw a deck list for Thalia just now, and might use that as a skeleton and tune it to fit my meta.

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Originally posted by revenger:
ok peeps- My local meta has giving me a prob with, so I come to you all for the solution.

I currently have a white/blue EDH deck, Commander of Geist of Saint Traft.

My problem is this:

I need white or blue or white/blue graveyard hate. I need white or blue or white/blue gain life hate.

I know of one white graveyard hate- Rest in Peace.

Suggestions?

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There is a white card from torment, Morningtide (sorcery)

W1 - Exile all cards from all graveyards

Grafdigger's Cage

1 (colorless) creature's can't be played from the graveyard, and searchable with trinket mage.

Bazaar of Wonders - Enchantment

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Originally posted by revenger:
I need white or blue or white/blue gain life hate.

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Originally posted by mcelraca:

There is a white card from torment, Morningtide (sorcery)

W1 - Exile all cards from all graveyards

Grafdigger's Cage

1 (colorless) creature's can't be played from the graveyard, and searchable with trinket mage.

Bazaar of Wonders - Enchantment

UU3 - Exile all cards from all graveyards, counter spells with the same name as card exiled this way (lame for edh, but its blue graveyard hate)

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Originally posted by Devonin:
Run an Arbiter of Knollridge for life gain hate. *grin* Since U/W can't really stop them from gaining the life, the least you can do is gain all the life they've gained, at once, on one card.

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Originally posted by rockondon:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by revenger:
I need white or blue or white/blue gain life hate.

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I have a beautiful mirror universe I'm not using

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Very nice, wish I could run 1, unfort, eek, they aint cheap!

Figure I'm running 38 lands, plus some mana excel.

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, I'm going to try running a 5 color Legendary deck. The idea is simple. All legends, including non-creatures where I can. So, what should be auto-includes and auto-excludes?

Figure I'm running 38 lands, plus some mana excel.

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Horde of Notions for sure, with as many legendary elementals as possible

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, I'm going to try running a 5 color Legendary deck. The idea is simple. All legends, including non-creatures where I can. So, what should be auto-includes and auto-excludes?

Figure I'm running 38 lands, plus some mana excel.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Is Lyzoldas 2 damage from her commander damage or does it have to be 21 pts of combat damage?

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The 21 rule only applies to combat damage.

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Originally posted by junichi:
I agree that Rafiq will be slower than Azusa, hence if I have to play him, it will have to be control heavy to slow down the paste of everyone else. I also saw a deck list for Thalia just now, and might use that as a skeleton and tune it to fit my meta.

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I have a Sigarda deck that features Mageta the Lion, Melira, Novablast Wurm and Cauldron of Souls. The idea is to use a platoon of regenerating and persistent creatures on my side and control the table with multiple Wrath effects.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Very nice, wish I could run 1, unfort, eek, they aint cheap!

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
Soul Conduit. Better, in a sense, than Mirror Universe, and costs .25.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Is there such thing as a pauper commander deck? or a commander deck that doesn't have a rare over $5 or $10 in it? Why? I built my 1st mtgo commandr deck, played 2 games and was sick to myself. the theme of them both? Land Destruction. Major bling. My skullbriat deck is feshly made and I know its gonna lose alot b4 it wins any...but cmon!

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This is pretty much why I will not play EDH on MTGO. The lack of face to face interaction eliminates one of the driving factors behind the social aspect of the format that limits some of the cut throat deck building decisions.

It's been said many times, EDH is not a hard format to break if you really want to.

EDIT: As for pauper or peasant EDH, there are paper variants of the format. I don't think there are any online though.

My group has also tried building decks with budgetary restrictions, like a $50 cap on everything but the general and basic lands. You can still build decent decks under those restrictions, but they won't keep up in a super competitive meta usually.

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