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Originally posted by choco man:
All of the bw commanders involve sacrifice mechanics, too much of the same thing. Hoping Gatecrash brings something new because I also like bw.

A lot of commander is being able to find the right general. I'm fortunate that I'm a timmy and have lots of things to like. Really, the only thing missing is an Enchantress general.

I suppose you can find stuff you like to play and just use the general for colors for the time being. Is that how your Trostani and Gisela deck got construcetd?

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Precisely. I'm not thrilled about the 2 decks. Of the commanders I have: Bruna. Kinda xpensive to cast, and I'm not sure about a voltron deck. The most non basics tho to provide for the deck (hallowed fount, mystic gate etc.). Niv-Mizzet dracogenius. Again, expensive to cast. His abilities dont wow me. U/R= ugh. Jared Golagri Lich Lord. His abilites are ok, imo, but @ cmc, seems east to get into play. Only 4 non basic lands to help with deck (verdant catacoms, twilight mire, llanowar wastes, golgari guildgate.) Was looking @ lyzolda blood witch. not sure bout her. thinking. lol

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She's:
1. low cc and that seems to matter to you a lot, you don't have to ramp crazily to replay her.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
If the Flip Garruk playable in Mono green because he doesn't have any Black in hit mana cost?

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No. The color identity rule applies to both faces of double-sided cards. So, Garruk can only be played in a deck where the commander has green and black in their color identity.

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Originally posted by AGO:
Any cards that scream to be in Elf Tribal?

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Patriarch's Bidding. Coat of Arms.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Lyzolda is great with GRAVEDIGGERS!

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As well as Murderous Redcap, Ashenmoor Liege and anything with 'unearth'.

I had a Lyzolda deck that transformed over time into a Wort, Boggart Auntie goblin rush deck. After reading this and remembering how much fun she was maybe I'll give Lyzolda another go at it.

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Originally posted by keywacat:
Anyone willing to help me select a pair of G/W commanders?

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Cheers;
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Decent G/W or G/W/x generals (pick one):

I have considered Jhoira of the Ghitu, but she is just too slow in my meta. I am looking for something that is fast and combolicious, or fast and prison like. Games are usually locked up no later than turn 5, so anything that is slow will be ineffective.

Thalia is currently my choice, but I could definitely use more opinions.

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Originally posted by junichi:
I am looking to make a second competitive EDH deck, and I could use some suggestions. I already have Arcum Dagsson made, and AdNau.dec is definitely not an option.

I have considered Jhoira of the Ghitu, but she is just too slow in my meta. I am looking for something that is fast and combolicious, or fast and prison like. Games are usually locked up no later than turn 5, so anything that is slow will be ineffective.

Thalia is currently my choice, but I could definitely use more opinions.

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Jhoira as a slower control deck is okay. More counters, more burn and more huge stuff to suspend that can't be countered, like Obliterate. Play some bombs that are removal/counter reisstant like wurmcoil and aeon chronicler. Detritivore, if you get it off on turn 3/4, is a huge wrecking ball against most edh decks.

Also having red means blood moon and magus of the moon are available.

I'm building either Rakdos or Jund right now because there's too much blue in my meta. If Jund, Adun Oakenshield.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Jhoira as a slower control deck is okay. More counters, more burn and more huge stuff to suspend that can't be countered, like Obliterate. Play some bombs that are removal/counter reisstant like wurmcoil and aeon chronicler. Detritivore, if you get it off on turn 3/4, is a huge wrecking ball against most edh decks.

Also having red means blood moon and magus of the moon are available.

I'm building either Rakdos or Jund right now because there's too much blue in my meta. If Jund, Adun Oakenshield.

Zozu is great for a monored deck.

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There are a lot of u/r/g, u/g, u/r and combo/aggro in my meta, so my deck needs to come out of the gate threatening, or disrupting. One of the guys in my group runs a Jhoira.dec, and the last time a suspended spell resolved was many weeks ago.

I do like the Detritivore/Aeon Chronicler play though, so I might still give that a go.

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Originally posted by junichi:
There are a lot of u/r/g, u/g, u/r and combo/aggro in my meta, so my deck needs to come out of the gate threatening, or disrupting. One of the guys in my group runs a Jhoira.dec, and the last time a suspended spell resolved was many weeks ago.

I do like the Detritivore/Aeon Chronicler play though, so I might still give that a go.

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Granted I recently abandoned a Jhoira deck that was very heavily anti-control because all the sudden people stopped playing control and I was bored of it anyway.

In other news...

With the introduction of evolve, I've been inspired to brew +1/+1 counter heavy deck. It started out as Kraj, but the dude just leans too combo for me and needs pointless support cards to build around him.

I've decided to branch out into another color. My options are either Jenara or Vorosh (Animar is out, since I have a deck with him already that I live very much).

Jenara allows me to run a sub-theme of tokens and some minor ETB stuff. A little bit of a focus on enchantments as well, especially stuff like Cathar's Crusade and Mirari's Wake.

Vorosh mainly gives me Corpsejack Menace and some solid tutor/removal options...but that's about it.

Hmmmm....typing this out pretty much just made up my mind for me.

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Originally posted by choco man:
Skullbriar for aggro +1/+1 counter deck?

It would steer you away from combo and control and combo/control tendencies. Nothing like attacking for tons of damage the legit way.

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I want the deck to be base UG, so Skullbriar is out.

At this point I have my original Kraj list and a Jenara list that focuses heavily on the +1/+1 counters and tokens.

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Originally posted by junichi:
I am looking to make a second competitive EDH deck, and I could use some suggestions. I already have Arcum Dagsson made, and AdNau.dec is definitely not an option.

I have considered Jhoira of the Ghitu, but she is just too slow in my meta. I am looking for something that is fast and combolicious, or fast and prison like. Games are usually locked up no later than turn 5, so anything that is slow will be ineffective.

Thalia is currently my choice, but I could definitely use more opinions.

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You could try Rafiq of the many either of you. He matches the colors and he is lethal very quickly. Throw and equipment or something on him and you can hit 21 damage in a swing or two.

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Originally posted by Swift2210:
Azusa sounds like she could flourish in your meta.

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This may sound crazy, but we had an Azusa player awhile ago, and the deck was simply too slow in my meta due to the amount of combos and the lack of interaction with them. I saw your deck list on MTGS though, and it would work if my meta is more "normal & fair".

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Originally posted by mcelraca:
Azusa is one of my favorite commanders. throwing down tons of lands every turn is always fun.

You could try Rafiq of the many either of you. He matches the colors and he is lethal very quickly. Throw and equipment or something on him and you can hit 21 damage in a swing or two.

I have a Jhoira deck, and the bad thing about is the target put on your head. Everyone will just let you sit around until the turn before you rspells are cast. Coincidentally it's also probably the turn you would end up winning :-(

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I might give Rafiq a try, but I will probably have to tune it into a control deck with aggro finish.

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My problem is this:

I need white or blue or white/blue graveyard hate. I need white or blue or white/blue gain life hate.

I know of one white graveyard hate- Rest in Peace.

Suggestions?

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If you need it to be a white or blue spell for some reason, blue has Reminisce and Stream of Consciousness to reshuffle cards back into a library. White has a number of good exile effects outside of Rest in Peace; Honor the Fallen, Morningtide, Purify the Grave, Samurai of the Pale Curtain, and Stonecloaker (a personal favorite)

For life gain hate...there's really not anything that springs to mind in those colors. Most of that hate is in B/R.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
Are artifacts not allowed for some reason? You're in blue, which means you can run Trinket Mage to fetch up Relic of Progenitus, Tormod's Crypt, Phyrexian Furnace, and Scrabbling Claws. You can then use Academy Ruins to regrow most of those.

If you need it to be a white or blue spell for some reason, blue has Reminisce and Stream of Consciousness to reshuffle cards back into a library. White has a number of good exile effects outside of Rest in Peace; Honor the Fallen, Morningtide, Purify the Grave, Samurai of the Pale Curtain, and Stonecloaker (a personal favorite)

For life gain hate...there's really not anything that springs to mind in those colors. Most of that hate is in B/R.

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Yes, artifacts are allowed, and I will definetly look into some of these white yard hate.

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