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At the time they banned Metalworker, OG Karn was a heavily played general at those huge EDH grand melees that they started to run as pulic sude events and Staff of Domination was legal. It was banned the same time Academy and Tinker were axed.

With Staff banned, Metalworker isn't the same beast. Playing a 100% permanents deck (which colorless decks normally are) has some drawbacks. Rofellos is more consistent and 2cc. Metalworker could be unbanned, just fine.

 
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Painter's Servant is banned because of the interaction with both Grindstone and Iona, Shield of Emeria.

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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Painter's Servant is banned because of the interaction with both Grindstone and Iona, Shield of Emeria.


I would say more for Iona who is super busted and pretty much dies right away in all games.

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Metal Worker

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I would say more for Iona who is super busted and pretty much dies right away in all games.


I have an Iona deck and only play multiplayer. It rarely locks more than one guy up at a time in my play group. That you would mention that she dies asap in all games, goes to show that Iona is not super busted.

Painter Servant is awesome but there is a reason why MTG-hosers are normally color-specific (eg Douse). They are ridiculously overpowered but very narrow.

 
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I made a blink based deck and its really not as fun as I would have expected

I use Rasputin as a General. I think i might be focusing too much on the come into play effects rather then making things completely playable.

Anyone else built a Blink type deck?

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Sway the Stars is banned for the same reason they are looking at banning that new red card that makes each player's life total 1. Putting everyone at 7 life after reseting the game is just plain un-fun, especially with painlands, shocklands, fetchlands, etc..

One of the things I find most un-fun about Commander is all the searching/tutor/fetching and deck shuffling. I don't like spending half of a game waiting for other players to shuffle their libraries, and I don't like seeing the same cards/combos hit the table every game.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
I made a blink based deck and its really not as fun as I would have expected

I use Rasputin as a General. I think i might be focusing too much on the come into play effects rather then making things completely playable.

Anyone else built a Blink type deck?


I ran Ruhan as a blink-centric deck, using stuff like Stoneforge to search up new equipment for him and general utility creatures (Izzet Chronarch, removal, etc.) to control the board or gain CA. I pretty much found the same issue as well, since most of the best utility creatures to blink are typically not the best finishers.

I think it's a decent subtheme, but I would not dedicate too many slots to it. I run the best enablers in UW, Venser Sojourner and Mistmeadow Witch, and then stick with creatures I would be running anyway.

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
I ran Ruhan as a blink-centric deck, using stuff like Stoneforge to search up new equipment for him and general utility creatures (Izzet Chronarch, removal, etc.) to control the board or gain CA. I pretty much found the same issue as well, since most of the best utility creatures to blink are typically not the best finishers.

I think it's a decent subtheme, but I would not dedicate too many slots to it. I run the best enablers in UW, Venser Sojourner and Mistmeadow Witch, and then stick with creatures I would be running anyway.


you run Godo?

 
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I don't like Ruhan not my style to just smash with a 7/7 vanilla for 4 randomly.

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Is there any instant-speed kill spell for black to use with infinite manas?

I don't know if it'll work anyway, but I basically want to have the option of ending the game with a win if someone else is going to combo out, but I don't want to actually combo out on sorcery speed on my turn and end games that might otherwise have been fun without doing that.

 
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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Is there any instant-speed kill spell for black to use with infinite manas?

I don't know if it'll work anyway, but I basically want to have the option of ending the game with a win if someone else is going to combo out, but I don't want to actually combo out on sorcery speed on my turn and end games that might otherwise have been fun without doing that.


There is not.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
There is not.


Not entirely true
There's always: Sac outlet + Phage the Untouchable + Endless Whispers

 
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Not entirely true
There's always: Sac outlet + Phage the Untouchable + Endless Whispers

How is this instant speed kill that uses infinite mana?

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lol
 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
How is this instant speed kill that uses infinite mana?


Obviously you want to have all of the combo pieces in your hand, a sac outlet in play, and Academy Rector as well. Then you pop the rector in response, get Leyline of Anticipation, and then do the things to cheat your Phage combo out at instant speed. I thought that was implicit though.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
How is this instant speed kill that uses infinite mana?


I guess I just needed more "instant speed kill in Black" rather than one that specifically used infinite mana; sorry about the poor phrasing before if that mattered. I guess the general point is a way to win at instant speed in response to an opponent combo-ing out. It's fine if there isn't, just hoping.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on June 25, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Is there any instant-speed kill spell for black to use with infinite manas?

I don't know if it'll work anyway, but I basically want to have the option of ending the game with a win if someone else is going to combo out, but I don't want to actually combo out on sorcery speed on my turn and end games that might otherwise have been fun without doing that.


Probably gonna need Orrery.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Is there any instant-speed kill spell for black to use with infinite manas?

I don't know if it'll work anyway, but I basically want to have the option of ending the game with a win if someone else is going to combo out, but I don't want to actually combo out on sorcery speed on my turn and end games that might otherwise have been fun without doing that.


Well, if you want to kill all creatures, you can do Shriveling Rot + that thing that deals 1 damage to each creature (forgot the name).

 
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Originally posted by Mr.C:
Well, if you want to kill all creatures, you can do Shriveling Rot + that thing that deals 1 damage to each creature (forgot the name).

I guess Shriveling Rot + Wail of the Nim would be instant-speed against any creature-based comboing out (e.g. Bruna). With Entwines it might be an instant-speed kill on players too, not just destroying their stuff. So that's pretty awesome and thanks! Most people here do play somewhat creature-based EDH decks.

Other than that, yeah... Orrery, Bloodflow Connoisseur, Phage, and Endless Whispers? Endless Whispers doesn't work until the end of turn though, so if someone else XHD Exsanguinates, it wouldn't help.

Helm of Obedience + Leyline of the Void, it'd be an obvious combo that's out on the board though. And I'd need a forced draw after using Helm to actually kill them, rather than them dying on the NEXT turn.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Bagbokk on June 28, 2012]

 
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Is there any mana excel for any land (not basic only) that has a CMC of 3 or more? I'm working on a 5 color abomination of a deck and feel like I need some excel. I am running Ignot and the 5 Obelisks already, but know I am missing something.

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Ranger's Path comes to mind as you can search for duals with it.
 
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Is there any mana excel for any land (not basic only) that has a CMC of 3 or more? I'm working on a 5 color abomination of a deck and feel like I need some excel. I am running Ignot and the 5 Obelisks already, but know I am missing something.


Everything that says get 2 Forest Cards.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Everything that says get 2 Forest Cards.


My fave is Skyshroud Claim

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Ok, the problem is that I am not 100% sure how many duals I will be running or which colors I will be focusing on yet.

I was thinking of cards like this: Reap and Sow

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