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revenger Member	posted June 03, 2012 07:54 PM Is Nissa really playable in anything but an elf deck? __________________ Motl member since November 1, 2000 Your 2008 and 2010 Motl Siskel & Ebert award winner! 34th in refs on Motl! First in refs in state of Arizona! I offer 3rd party trades. Email me if interested.
Devonin Member	posted June 03, 2012 08:33 PM Hm...one ability only cares about elves. One ability only gets you one copy of one bad elf once. One ability only cares about elves... Pretty sure she only goes in elf decks.
Jtrade77 Member	posted June 03, 2012 09:19 PM If you play changelings and conspiracy: elves then Nissa only becomes janky... she still never crosses the line into playable. Is fun to try once though... big thing is getting the Conspiracy to stick on the table and hoping no one wraths before the attack.
Havoc Demon Member	posted June 03, 2012 11:14 PM Is Nissa Revane even good in an Elf deck? All I see is a four mana Wellwisher with an ultimate that plays right into any wrath effect. I guess its good with Crossroads but it's not to hard to do that in green to begin with. __________________ Most References in Massachusetts 80th All-time Support my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com
tinyfists Member	posted June 04, 2012 04:24 AM I had her in a elf deck before.. Eldrazi monument is your friend flying indestructible Elves!! I guess that's what inspired Avatar ^^
Bugger Member	posted June 04, 2012 08:01 AM Krond, the Dawn-Clad is ridiculous. Maelstrom Wanderer SHOULD HAVE BEEN WUBRG DAMMIT __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
revenger Member	posted June 04, 2012 10:03 AM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Maelstrom Wanderer SHOULD HAVE BEEN WUBRG DAMMIT I sooooo agree with this. __________________ Motl member since November 1, 2000 Your 2008 and 2010 Motl Siskel & Ebert award winner! 34th in refs on Motl! First in refs in state of Arizona! I offer 3rd party trades. Email me if interested.
choco man Member	posted June 04, 2012 12:27 PM from the last thread quote: Originally posted by Bagbokk: ... There's lots of combos out there. The most efficient ones just eventually lead to Exsanguinate/Tendrils of Agony. I didn't mean to suggest particular combos that you could use. I wanted to point out that with Xaihou, he's most "good" in a deck with recursion and tutors. Since he just recurs tutors over and over. Since you're just going to end up tutoring a bunch, combo just seemed like a natural route. If you want to build a reanimator deck, I would suggest for you to use a reanimator general like Chainer, Dementia Master. I know you want to build a good deck. And we know that fun doesn't mean bad. But does good mean all tutors and combos and ramp? Not exclusively, right? To me, a good EDH deck can function and interact throughout the every stage of the game. A lot of goodstuff.dec's cannot do that (ie when their ramp doesn't go online early). When people want to start playing commander, I just suggest they pick a general they like and build around it. Some players use the same 2-card game ending combo no matter what deck/general they decide to play. It's okay. But you get earn more respect and have more style when you try to abuse the crap out of Toshiro Umezawa's ability than when you build a black Mikaeus + Triskelion.dec [Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on June 04, 2012]
WeedIan Member	posted June 08, 2012 12:20 AM I wish i wouldn't get bored of some of my EDH decks because then i make new ones and spend more money LOL. I have about 9 EDH decks right now and i always end up wanting to make more. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
rockondon Member	posted June 16, 2012 05:27 PM I just went to my first EDH tournament and my arcum dagsson deck tore through everybody. The last match, a multiplayer game of 4, began with me shuffling then offering my deck (foiled/altered and worth thousands) to the guy next to me. Instead of cutting it he picked it up, shuffled repeatedly, dropped cards, crammed them in upside down, shuffled more, then said "What? I'm allowed to shuffle for 5 minutes. Is that a problem?" Instead of telling him what a jerk he was, I let my deck to the talking for me. My deck toyed with his for a while until he nerd-ragequit and said "I quit, you can have my pack" (you win a pack for each person you beat). It was immensely satisfying. __________________ \|My Angels~My P9 l""\|"\__, \|~~My #1 Angel~~l'_\|'_\|_\|) \|(@)(@)""*\|(@)(@)\|(@)
Markers Member	posted June 17, 2012 04:32 AM Friends of mine have persuaded me to build a EDH-Deck and now here it is my first ever EDH-Deck...And it is the first deck I've built in the last 3 years, so I need a little bit of help. The deck should hold its own in a EDH-Tournament (3 players each round) (I only put cards in that were artist signed) Commander: Doran, the Siege Tower Creatures: Birds of Paradise Chameleon Colossus dountless Dourbark Eternal Witness Noble Hierarch Grizzled Leotau Indomitable Ancients Krosan Tusker Llanowar Elves Massacre Wurm Mirror Entity Mother of Runes Oracle of Mul Daya Primeval titan Quasali Pridemage Sapling of colfenor Stoneforge Mystic Thrun, the last troll Tilling Treefolk Timber Protector Treefolk harbinger Troll Ascetic Unstoppable ash Wickerbough elder Wurmcoil Engine Enchantment: Animate Dead Bitterblossom Journey to nowhere Land Tax Necropotence Necromancy Necrogenesis Oblivion Ring Sylvan Library Artifact: Ensouled Scimitar Grim Monolith Jitte Mana Vault Mimic Vat Slagwurm Armor Sol Ring Sword of Feast and Famine Sword of Fire and Ice Instant: Diabolic Edict Go for the Throat Harrow Krosan Grip Mortify Naturalize Path to Exile Putrefy Swords to Plowshares Tithe Vampiric Tutor Vines of vastwood Sorcery: Cultivate Day of Judgment Demonic Tutor Kodama's reach Maelstrom Pulse Regrowth Sign in Blood Vindicate Planeswalker: Elspeth, Knight-Errant Liliana of the Veil Garruk Wildspeaker Lands Gaea's Cradle Murmuring Bosk Command Tower Reflecting Pool Diamond Valley Bayou Scrubland Savannah Twilight Mire Fetid Heath Wooded Bastion Godless Shrine Overgrown Tomb Temple Garden Woodland Cemetery Sunpetal grove Isolated Chapel Flagstone of Trokair Yavimaya Hollow Terramorphic Expanse 3xPlains 3xForest 3xSwamp Strip Mine Windswept Heath Marsh Flats Verdant Catacombs What do you think? What should I drop or what have I forgotten? Many thanks! __________________ Collecting signed cards. PM me... Total signed cards: >31'000 my stuff my nearly complete signed sets
WeedIan Member	posted June 17, 2012 03:40 PM quote: Originally posted by rockondon: I just went to my first EDH tournament and my arcum dagsson deck tore through everybody. The last match, a multiplayer game of 4, began with me shuffling then offering my deck (foiled/altered and worth thousands) to the guy next to me. Instead of cutting it he picked it up, shuffled repeatedly, dropped cards, crammed them in upside down, shuffled more, then said "What? I'm allowed to shuffle for 5 minutes. Is that a problem?" Instead of telling him what a jerk he was, I let my deck to the talking for me. My deck toyed with his for a while until he nerd-ragequit and said "I quit, you can have my pack" (you win a pack for each person you beat). It was immensely satisfying. This is why you don't have EDH tournies. quote: Originally posted by Markers: Friends of mine have persuaded me to build a EDH-Deck and now here it is my first ever EDH-Deck...And it is the first deck I've built in the last 3 years, so I need a little bit of help. The deck should hold its own in a EDH-Tournament (3 players each round) (I only put cards in that were artist signed) Commander: Doran, the Siege Tower Creatures: Birds of Paradise Chameleon Colossus dountless Dourbark Eternal Witness Noble Hierarch Grizzled Leotau Indomitable Ancients Krosan Tusker Llanowar Elves Massacre Wurm Mirror Entity Mother of Runes Oracle of Mul Daya Primeval titan Quasali Pridemage Sapling of colfenor Stoneforge Mystic Thrun, the last troll Tilling Treefolk Timber Protector Treefolk harbinger Troll Ascetic Unstoppable ash Wickerbough elder Wurmcoil Engine Enchantment: Animate Dead Bitterblossom Journey to nowhere Land Tax Necropotence Necromancy Necrogenesis Oblivion Ring Sylvan Library Artifact: Ensouled Scimitar Grim Monolith Jitte Mana Vault Mimic Vat Slagwurm Armor Sol Ring Sword of Feast and Famine Sword of Fire and Ice Instant: Diabolic Edict Go for the Throat Harrow Krosan Grip Mortify Naturalize Path to Exile Putrefy Swords to Plowshares Tithe Vampiric Tutor Vines of vastwood Sorcery: Cultivate Day of Judgment Demonic Tutor Kodama's reach Maelstrom Pulse Regrowth Sign in Blood Vindicate Planeswalker: Elspeth, Knight-Errant Liliana of the Veil Garruk Wildspeaker Lands Gaea's Cradle Murmuring Bosk Command Tower Reflecting Pool Diamond Valley Bayou Scrubland Savannah Twilight Mire Fetid Heath Wooded Bastion Godless Shrine Overgrown Tomb Temple Garden Woodland Cemetery Sunpetal grove Isolated Chapel Flagstone of Trokair Yavimaya Hollow Terramorphic Expanse 3xPlains 3xForest 3xSwamp Strip Mine Windswept Heath Marsh Flats Verdant Catacombs What do you think? What should I drop or what have I forgotten? Many thanks! Add Skull clamp. Elsepeth +1 = Pay 1 Draw 2 cards. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
caquaa Member	posted June 17, 2012 08:14 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: This is why you don't have EDH tournies. yah, my shop has decided against them after the first two. First one was 4 man pods w/ multiple rounds. I ran grand arbiter in that one and locked up the game so bad that 3 people scooped in one pod. Second tourney to prevent me from running a deck to lock down people (which I wouldn't have any how) was ran as grand melee. Ghave comboed out the table one at a time. The combo was actually sitting on the table and I didn't use it because there were some problems that weren't in my range of influence and I didn't want to bring them closer. I ended up using the combo when targeted w/ yosei's ability cause I just wasn't having that. I think its just too hard to play something thats purely fun when there are prizes on the line. I wanted that Yule Ooze, heh.
thror Member	posted June 17, 2012 09:18 PM EDH, you guys like bonkers right? Here ya go: http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/mm01fe4zoe_en.jpg Just don't complain about getting ganged up on after spending 8+ mana on this. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there." [16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
MasterWolf Member	posted June 17, 2012 11:11 PM quote: Originally posted by thror: EDH, you guys like bonkers right? Here ya go: http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/mm01fe4zoe_en.jpg Just don't complain about getting ganged up on after spending 8+ mana on this. You should probably be winning the game once 8 mana is spent.
WeedIan Member	posted June 18, 2012 05:44 AM quote: Originally posted by thror: EDH, you guys like bonkers right? Here ya go: http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/mm01fe4zoe_en.jpg Just don't complain about getting ganged up on after spending 8+ mana on this. Quicken + this is awesome since you can tutor at instant speed. Its not super amazing but its still pretty cool for EDH. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
WeedIan Member	posted June 19, 2012 04:55 PM BANNED: Griselbrand & Sundering Titan UNBANNED Nothing --- Seems ok, Sundering Titan has always been a bit unfun and i expected that Grisel would go since he draws 35 cards. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
choco man Member	posted June 19, 2012 04:59 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: BANNED: Griselbrand & Sundering Titan UNBANNED Nothing --- Seems ok, Sundering Titan has always been a bit unfun and i expected that Grisel would go since he draws 35 cards. Sheldon banned the right cards.
junichi Moderator	posted June 19, 2012 05:18 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: BANNED: Griselbrand & Sundering Titan UNBANNED Nothing --- Seems ok, Sundering Titan has always been a bit unfun and i expected that Grisel would go since he draws 35 cards. I am ok with those 2 cards being banned, but I am still baffled that Tooth and Nail (1 card combo) & Consecrated Sphinx (I draw a lot) are left untouched. When it comes to unfun, those 2 cards are definitely up there. __________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 Champion You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
choco man Member	posted June 19, 2012 05:27 PM quote: Originally posted by junichi: I am ok with those 2 cards being banned, but I am still baffled that Tooth and Nail (1 card combo) & Consecrated Sphinx (I draw a lot) are left untouched. When it comes to unfun, those 2 cards are definitely up there. But when it comes to fun, those 2 cards are definitely up there. S. Titan is better and more warping than both Sphinx and T&N. Something comes up for a lot of cards, Time Stretch in particular. It's a fine line, but I think Sheldon walks it alright. The main prob with the list is really Koku still being on there.
WeedIan Member	posted June 19, 2012 06:47 PM quote: Originally posted by choco man: But when it comes to fun, those 2 cards are definitely up there. S. Titan is better and more warping than both Sphinx and T&N. Something comes up for a lot of cards, Time Stretch in particular. It's a fine line, but I think Sheldon walks it alright. The main prob with the list is really Koku still being on there. Sounds like he wants a bit more time to test out Koko Puffs before coming to a decision. Sept unbanning. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
junichi Moderator	posted June 19, 2012 06:59 PM quote: Originally posted by choco man: But when it comes to fun, those 2 cards are definitely up there. S. Titan is better and more warping than both Sphinx and T&N. Something comes up for a lot of cards, Time Stretch in particular. It's a fine line, but I think Sheldon walks it alright. The main prob with the list is really Koku still being on there. You obviously have zero idea what you are talking about if you linked Tooth and Nail with fun. Since when is a 1 card "I win" combo fun? __________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 Champion You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
thror Member	posted June 19, 2012 08:57 PM quote: Originally posted by junichi: You obviously have zero idea what you are talking about if you linked Tooth and Nail with fun. Since when is a 1 card "I win" combo fun? You dont HAVE to combo with T&N. Some people actually use it for fun, or as a really good tutor effect. If someone in your group is always casting it and getting his instant win combo, then you ban it within your group. This is something that EDH allows for. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there." [16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
junichi Moderator	posted June 19, 2012 09:09 PM quote: Originally posted by thror: You dont HAVE to combo with T&N. Some people actually use it for fun, or as a really good tutor effect. If someone in your group is always casting it and getting his instant win combo, then you ban it within your group. This is something that EDH allows for. Couldn't you use the same argument for Griselbrand? __________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 Champion You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
Zakman86 Member	posted June 19, 2012 09:18 PM quote: Originally posted by junichi: Couldn't you use the same argument for Griselbrand? Griselbrand, draw a gazillion cards immediately, win? Consecrated Sphinx and Jin-Gitaxias have to at least last to get your use out of them.

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