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Black Rain Member	posted January 19, 2003 11:36 AM quote: Originally posted by Drow: If I have Phage in play, and my opponent butchers it then kills the butcher with a lightning bolt. Do i loose the game because of Phage coming in to play but not from my hand? yes. it come into play under your control, but you didnt play it from your hand, so you would loose __________________ No Tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering. The Apprentice Directory Free Vampire online Rpg
Jazaray Moderator	posted January 20, 2003 05:19 AM k, I have a question about Phage. Cause something someone said earlier, was bugging me. I suppose for the final ruling, I'll have to wait for the FAQ, but, I want to know what you all think. Phage, and Elvish Piper. I am "playing it from my hand", when using a Piper. __________________ AIM Handle Jazaray MSN Handle Jazaray@hotmail.com Shout Outz: Tad, Justin, Jared, John, Dave, Dave, Dave, Ken, Nick, Nick, Jason, Kyra, Katie, Chris, Val, Ed, Alex, Evans, Greg, Tony, Mike Want your name here ^^? Just Ask!
FyreStar Member	posted January 20, 2003 07:37 AM quote: Originally posted by Jazaray: k, I have a question about Phage. Cause something someone said earlier, was bugging me. I suppose for the final ruling, I'll have to wait for the FAQ, but, I want to know what you all think. Phage, and Elvish Piper. I am "playing it from my hand", when using a Piper. It doesn't work; Playing something and putting something into play are two different things. To play something means to announce it as a spell by itself, pay all costs, make all choices involved, move it from your hand to the stack, and from the stack to the in play zone when it resolves (in the case of Phage). Elvish Piper simply creates an effect that moves Phage from your hand to the in play zone. __________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
tragicmagic Member	posted January 20, 2003 09:10 AM When creatures come back from Parallax Wave, do they have summoning sickness?
FyreStar Member	posted January 20, 2003 12:28 PM quote: Originally posted by tragicmagic: When creatures come back from Parallax Wave, do they have summoning sickness? Yes. (Unless they have Haste, of course) __________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
evildead Member	posted January 21, 2003 02:54 PM This may have been asked already, but I can't find it if anyone has. I have an Aurafication in play and my opponent has a Mistform dreamer with a gold counter on it. Can he activate the Mistform ability calling anything but wall, and attack?
FyreStar Member	posted January 21, 2003 02:58 PM quote: Originally posted by evildead: This may have been asked already, but I can't find it if anyone has. I have an Aurafication in play and my opponent has a Mistform dreamer with a gold counter on it. Can he activate the Mistform ability calling anything but wall, and attack? Yes. It will override the gold counter until end of turn. __________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
Swimmer Member	posted January 21, 2003 05:08 PM Can you play animate dead on a spirit of the night? __________________ cArdboArd boX: I sometimes wonder whether Ancestral Recall is better than Peek. Swimmer: We all do, especially us poor kids. cArdboArd boX: I sold my refridgerator. Swimmer: My parents wouldnt like that.
TunaBoo Member	posted January 21, 2003 05:33 PM quote: Originally posted by Swimmer: Can you play animate dead on a spirit of the night? You may be ABLE to but it will fall off and not work.. so no. __________________ Tuna's Most Wanted Card Of The Week: Asian BB Balance If you see one, drop me a line. I will hook j00 up phat! 2002 Runner up for: The Mimi Bobeck Award, The Big Bird Award, The AC/DC Award, The Homer Simpson Award, The Mike Bullard Award, The Chronicle Award.
Archangel110 Member	posted January 21, 2003 05:53 PM When a creature is stolen by Dominating Licid.. do this creature have haste or not?
FyreStar Member	posted January 21, 2003 06:45 PM quote: Originally posted by Archangel110: When a creature is stolen by Dominating Licid.. do this creature have haste or not? No, it does not. __________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
-Vhati-il-dal- Member	posted January 21, 2003 07:04 PM In my graveyard is Phage and Volrath's Shapeshifter, with the Shapeshifter on top. I cast Resurrection on the Shapeshifter. Do I lose? Does this change if Phage is on top?
Vampric Doctor Member	posted January 21, 2003 08:47 PM Can you respond to your own spells? I know it's kind of a general question but can you like put merfolk looters ability on the stack and respond by playing rout as an instant before you pass priority? Trevor __________________ 1st in refs and posts in Vinton, Iowa Winner of of Eclichny's Apprentice Tourneys 1 time(s) Top 18 in Survivor 4.
raging_force Member	posted January 21, 2003 09:11 PM 1 question. My life is 4. my opponent send out laquatus's champion. and i responded with terminate targeting laquatus's champion. DO i lose the game? __________________ email @ rjpbus@hotmail.com aim @ rj092109
Drow Member	posted January 21, 2003 09:12 PM if i slide a creature with a cumulative upkeep does the upkeep start over?
da-odd-templar Member	posted January 21, 2003 09:23 PM Vhati: As long as the phage is the top card of the gyard as the shapeshifter is coming into play, the shapeshifter comes into play as phage. Which means if this happens with Ressurection, you lose. Doctor: You always get priority after you cast a spell or ability. For some stupid reason Magic Online won't let you let yourself get priority naturally after you cast a spell/ability...for that you have to hold either control or alt (forgot which) during the play in which you want to keep priority. __________________ Ari - We'll miss you. [Edited 1 times, lastly by da-odd-templar on January 21, 2003]
FyreStar Member	posted January 21, 2003 09:26 PM quote: Originally posted by -Vhati-il-dal-: In my graveyard is Phage and Volrath's Shapeshifter, with the Shapeshifter on top. I cast Resurrection on the Shapeshifter. Do I lose? Does this change if Phage is on top? You lose either way. quote: Originally posted by Vampric Doctor: Can you respond to your own spells? I know it's kind of a general question but can you like put merfolk looters ability on the stack and respond by playing rout as an instant before you pass priority? Yes, you can. quote: Originally posted by raging_force: My life is 4. my opponent send out laquatus's champion. and i responded with terminate targeting laquatus's champion. DO i lose the game? Not if you time it correctly. Let Laquatus's Champion come into play, let its CIP ability go on the stack, respond with terminate. Terminate resolves and the Champ dies, which makes the leaves play ability go on the stack. That resolves, so you go up to ten life, and then the comes into play ability finally resolves, dropping you back to four. quote: Originally posted by Drow: if i slide a creature with a cumulative upkeep does the upkeep start over? Yes. __________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
da-odd-templar Member	posted January 21, 2003 09:32 PM quote: Originally posted by Drow: if i slide a creature with a cumulative upkeep does the upkeep start over? 502.13a Cumulative upkeep is a triggered ability that imposes an increasing cost on a permanent. The phrase "Cumulative upkeep [cost]" means "At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice this permanent unless you pay [cost] for each age counter on it." By this definition, I would say yes Drow, a card loses all memory of former CU when it gets slided out. (since it had counters, but lost them when it left play.) __________________ Ari - We'll miss you.
GoingPostal Member	posted January 22, 2003 05:46 AM quote: Originally posted by -Vhati-il-dal-: In my graveyard is Phage and Volrath's Shapeshifter, with the Shapeshifter on top. I cast Resurrection on the Shapeshifter. Do I lose? Does this change if Phage is on top? I think the only way this combo will work is to attack with the Shapeshifter, and if it goes unblocked, then discard Phage before combat damage is dealt. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. __________________ "If you look at it long enough, maybe it will go away" Yahoo ID: rjgill21 MSN ID: rjgill21@hotmail.com AIM ID: goingpostal2173 Need an Apprentice opponent? Look no further than right here!
Gabethebabe Member	posted January 22, 2003 06:28 AM quote: Originally posted by GoingPostal: I think the only way this combo will work is to attack with the Shapeshifter, and if it goes unblocked, then discard Phage before combat damage is dealt. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. You can discard the Phage anytime, don´t need to wait until the combat phase (though the surprise effect will be the biggest). __________________ GtB My eBay profile Please don´t send me instant messages or PM´s.
Phantom_Sailor10 New Member	posted January 22, 2003 06:47 AM If i have urza's incubator and i choose beasts, can i play morphed beasts for 2 less as well?
grimmer Member	posted January 22, 2003 06:53 AM quote: Originally posted by Phantom_Sailor10: If i have urza's incubator and i choose beasts, can i play morphed beasts for 2 less as well? No. Face-down creatures have no type. If this did work, which it doesn't, your opponent would have to "trust" you that it was a beast that they couldn't see.
Drow Member	posted January 22, 2003 07:15 AM ok i was looking at that shapeshifter now lets just say i have baron out he dies (now he is the top creature card in my graveyard) my opponent plays his baron now what would happen to the shapshifter. so what happens if the top card of your graveyard isn't a creature does the shifter die or does it just stay what ever creature it was? And i just want to say thx to all the ppl who have helped me and others on this site if it weren't for your guys/girls i know i'd be up ****'s creek without a paddle thx again [Edited 1 times, lastly by Drow on January 22, 2003]
grimmer Member	posted January 22, 2003 08:40 AM If the top card of your graveyard is Baron Sengir with Volrath's Shapeshifter in play and your opponent plays Baron Sengir, their Baron will be put in the graveyard as a state-based effect because 2 legends of the same name can't be in play simultaneously. The one with the earliest time stamp remains... all others are put in their respective graveyards.
GoingPostal Member	posted January 22, 2003 09:42 AM quote: Originally posted by Drow: so what happens if the top card of your graveyard isn't a creature does the shifter die or does it just stay what ever creature it was? The Shifter itself is a 0/1...so no it won't die. __________________ "If you look at it long enough, maybe it will go away" Yahoo ID: rjgill21 MSN ID: rjgill21@hotmail.com AIM ID: goingpostal2173 Need an Apprentice opponent? Look no further than right here!

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