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Denizen
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posted January 03, 2003 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Denizen   Click Here to Email Denizen     
My opponent has an Anvil of Bogarden and a Megrim out, and i have in my hand a Guerrila Tactics and a Fiery Temper.
two questions:
if i discard the temper to the anvil, do i take damage from the megrim if i play it's madness cost.
and:
if i discard the Guerrila Tactics, does the Anvil activate its ability?

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posted January 03, 2003 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FyreStar   Click Here to Email FyreStar     
quote:
Originally posted by mulder:
My oponent plays a Mesmeric Fiend, and chooses some card from my hand to remove
1) Can I Wish for the card?

2) What happens then when the Fiend leaves play?

3) Suppose I wished for it and the card is removed from game because of a Dissipate, do I still get it back when the Fiend dies?

thanks!!!


1) Yes.

2) Nothing. Once the cards leaves the Removed From Game Zone, the Fiend's ability loses track of it.

3) No, for the same reason.

quote:
Originally posted by Denizen:
My opponent has an Anvil of Bogarden and a Megrim out, and i have in my hand a Guerrila Tactics and a Fiery Temper.
two questions:
if i discard the temper to the anvil, do i take damage from the megrim if i play it's madness cost.
and:
if i discard the Guerrila Tactics, does the Anvil activate its ability?

1) Yes. Cards played via madness are still considered to be discarded.

2) Yes, the Guerrilla Tactics will deal four damage.

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Drow
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posted January 03, 2003 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drow   Click Here to Email Drow     
ok i cycle slice and dice can i discard it to wild mongrel?



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posted January 03, 2003 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FyreStar   Click Here to Email FyreStar     
quote:
Originally posted by Drow:
ok i cycle slice and dice can i discard it to wild mongrel?

Nope. Discarding it is part of the cost to cycle it.

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Drow
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posted January 03, 2003 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drow   Click Here to Email Drow     
quote:
Originally posted by FyreStar:
Nope. Discarding it is part of the cost to cycle it.


thought so thx

HustlerMay09
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posted January 03, 2003 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HustlerMay09   Click Here to Email HustlerMay09     
When using the card Conspiracy, could you name a creature type such as "Bird Soldier Wizard" and all your creatures would count as birds, soldiers, and wizards?


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posted January 03, 2003 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FyreStar   Click Here to Email FyreStar     
quote:
Originally posted by HustlerMay09:
When using the card Conspiracy, could you name a creature type such as "Bird Soldier Wizard" and all your creatures would count as birds, soldiers, and wizards?

Nope. That would be naming three different creature types; you can only name one.

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posted January 04, 2003 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
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posted January 05, 2003 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sawa_boon   Click Here to Email sawa_boon     
questions about creature types. Let's say imagecraft or something ( tap to change a creature's creature type).

1) I have a imagecrafter and my opponent controls a wellwisher and another imagecraft. now, i changed the wellwisher into a wizard, later in the same turn, my opponent change the same wellwisher into an elf. does the creature type 'Elf' replace the 'wizard', or issit now a 'wizard elf'?

2) what happens if my opponent tap his wellwisher to gain life, and i response to change the wellwisher into a squid using my imagecraft? And so does to sparksmith.

3) if i use the ability to change guskcloak harrier's (bird soldier) creature type into a goblin. does the 2 creature types of the harrier being changed into goblin?

da-odd-templar
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posted January 05, 2003 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
1.) It's of creature type "Elf" now.

2.) On resolution of the ability, the wellwisher/sparksmith counts total number of respective creature types in play, and they don't count themselves since you changed their creature type.

3.) It's of creature type "Goblin" now.

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Trag3dy
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posted January 05, 2003 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trag3dy   Click Here to Email Trag3dy     
Okay.

Say i have a Future Sight in play, along with a Wild Mongrel. When I attack can i not just discard as many cards as i desired to the Wild Mongrel?

2UUU Future Sight

Play with the top card of your library revealed.

You may play with the top card of your library as though it were in your hand.

1G Wild Mongrel

Discard a card from your hand: Wild Mongrel gets +1/+1 and becomes the color of your choice till the end of turn.

Is this not a legal combo?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Trag3dy on January 05, 2003]


TeenieBopper
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posted January 05, 2003 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TeenieBopper     
No, the combo doesn't work. The top card is still considered part of your library.

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TunaBoo
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posted January 06, 2003 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TunaBoo     
Okay I keep hearing people talk about misdirecting a yawgs will. The card clearly uses the word YOU. So you can't misdirect it. Am I missing something?

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Text (US+errata): Until end of turn, you may play cards in your graveyard as though they were in your hand. ; If a card would be put into your graveyard this turn, remove that card from the game instead. [Oracle 1999/07/21]

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da-odd-templar
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posted January 06, 2003 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
Where exactly are you hearing such atrocities?

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FyreStar
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posted January 06, 2003 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FyreStar   Click Here to Email FyreStar     
Some people will try to Misdirect ANYTHING. A guy I used to play with attempted to Misdirect: Fact or Fiction, Global Ruin, Harrow, Brainstorm, Call of the Herd, Yawgmoth's Will, and even a few global enchantments.

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TunaBoo
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posted January 06, 2003 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TunaBoo     
Ok, I am just making sure I was not losing it. I thought the You part was pretty self explanatory.

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mulder
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posted January 06, 2003 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mulder   Click Here to Email mulder     
I have an Academy Rector in play. It's my opponent's turn, and he plays his second spell. In response, I play Read the Runes and sac the Rector, and I search an Arcane Laboratory. Since he played his second spell, what happens to it?

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posted January 06, 2003 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mrhat   Click Here to Email Mrhat     
quote:
Originally posted by mulder:
I have an Academy Rector in play. It's my opponent's turn, and he plays his second spell. In response, I play Read the Runes and sac the Rector, and I search an Arcane Laboratory. Since he played his second spell, what happens to it?

thanks


A spell is played when it's costs are payed and it is put on the stack. When the Lab comes into play, it has already been played, and the Lab is too late. Assuming you have no other responses, the spell resolves as normal, but he can't play any more that turn.

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rjohnson189
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posted January 09, 2003 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjohnson189   Click Here to Email rjohnson189     
Ok, here is the question

I have astral slide in play, and i cycle a card and remove my opponents merfolk looter from the game(it has summoning sickness still). After it comes back into playing and the end of turn abilities have resolved, is it true that i can cycle another card and remove it from the game again(or another creature from the game) and it wouldnt come back to the end of his turn and would retain summoning sickness?(because it hasnt been in play at the beginning of his turn)

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Spelljack
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posted January 09, 2003 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spelljack     
A. My opponent attaks with Nantuko Husk and a 1/1 creature. I block his 1/1 creature with my 1/1 creature. Before his 1/1 creature dies, he sacrifices it for Nantuko husk to get +2/+2.

1. Do my 1/1 creature die?
2. Do i receive 4 damage?

B. In my clean up step, i discard a card since i have 8 cards in hand. my opponent uses steamclaw to remove my discarded card from my graveyard and out of the game.

1. Can he do that in my clean up step?
2. Since the clean up step is after the end of turn step, instants and abilities cannot be used in the clean up step?

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posted January 09, 2003 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
quote:
Originally posted by rjohnson189:
Ok, here is the question

I have astral slide in play, and i cycle a card and remove my opponents merfolk looter from the game(it has summoning sickness still). After it comes back into playing and the end of turn abilities have resolved, is it true that i can cycle another card and remove it from the game again(or another creature from the game) and it wouldnt come back to the end of his turn and would retain summoning sickness?(because it hasnt been in play at the beginning of his turn)


Yes, if you remove a card from the game with slide after "at end of turn" triggers have triggered, the slide will wait until the next "at end of turn", which will be the next turn.

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posted January 09, 2003 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
quote:
Originally posted by Spelljack:
A. My opponent attaks with Nantuko Husk and a 1/1 creature. I block his 1/1 creature with my 1/1 creature. Before his 1/1 creature dies, he sacrifices it for Nantuko husk to get +2/+2.

1. Do my 1/1 creature die?
2. Do i receive 4 damage?


If he sac's his 1/1 after after combat damage has been put on the stack, then your 1/1 dies. If before combat damage, your 1/1 lives. Again, if he puts 2 combat damage on the stack for the husk, then you take 2, even if he does sac a creature later. If he sac's before damage, then you take 4 (but your 1/1 lives).

quote:

B. In my clean up step, i discard a card since i have 8 cards in hand. my opponent uses steamclaw to remove my discarded card from my graveyard and out of the game.

1. Can he do that in my clean up step?
2. Since the clean up step is after the end of turn step, instants and abilities cannot be used in the clean up step?


He can't do that, since no players get priority during the cleanup step.

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Trag3dy
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posted January 09, 2003 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trag3dy   Click Here to Email Trag3dy     
im in search of a second opinion.

Future Sight

Wild Mongrel

can i discard cards to the wild mongrel from my deck, i mean the card does say play as though it were in your hand, and then wild mongrels ability. regardless of this "its still considered your library" i mean, it can be played, right? boy wizards,....whew.

Trag3dy

Spelljack
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posted January 09, 2003 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spelljack     
Thanks. That was a big help. They have been cheating me!

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posted January 09, 2003 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FyreStar   Click Here to Email FyreStar     
quote:
Originally posted by Trag3dy:
im in search of a second opinion.

Future Sight

Wild Mongrel

can i discard cards to the wild mongrel from my deck, i mean the card does say play as though it were in your hand, and then wild mongrels ability. regardless of this "its still considered your library" i mean, it can be played, right? boy wizards,....whew.

Trag3dy



It doesn't work. Future Sight says you may play cards as if they were in your hand, but the cards aren't actually in your hand. To discard something, it needs to be in your hand.

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