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Author Topic:   Rulings thread #14, Post all rulings questions here
samus_ssp
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posted January 24, 2003 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samus_ssp   Click Here to Email samus_ssp     
BA! your all wrong.

when a creature with trample is blocked, but before damage is put on the stack it gets removed from combat, Mr. Trample dose zero damage.

da-odd-templar
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posted January 24, 2003 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
Umm, no samus. You are wrong.

I'll even quote from the comp. rules.

quote:
502.9c If all the creatures blocking an attacking creature with trample are removed from combat
before the combat damage step, all its damage is assigned to the defending player.

Now go off and play Yu-Gi-Oh.

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posted January 24, 2003 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moxdiamd   Click Here to Email moxdiamd     
I know this is a stupid question, but are cards from the beatdown box set tournament legal?


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posted January 24, 2003 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grimmer   Click Here to Email grimmer     
D.6.1 - All DCI tournaments are played as per the most recent text on cards. This means you play all cards as if they read like the most recent English language version of the card (plus errata). [Tournament Rules 1996/10/01] When Oracle (a complete card reference) is available, it should be used. [Tournament Rules 1997/10/01]

D.6.2 - You may play cards from older or newer printings and expansions which bear the same name as a card which is allowed in the tournament format. Regardless of printing, however, Rule D.6.1 applies. [Aahz 1997/07/13]

[Edited 1 times, lastly by grimmer on January 24, 2003]


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posted January 24, 2003 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingPostal   Click Here to Email GoingPostal     
quote:
Originally posted by da-odd-templar:
Now go off and play Yu-Gi-Oh.


Ouch.

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meep
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posted January 24, 2003 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meep   Click Here to Email meep     
When Nature's Revolt is in play, do the lands in my graveyard, deck and hand count as creatures?


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posted January 24, 2003 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sawa_boon   Click Here to Email sawa_boon     
quote:
Originally posted by meep:
When Nature's Revolt is in play, do the lands in my graveyard, deck and hand count as creatures?

no... as they are land cards, not lands nor creatures



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posted January 24, 2003 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vincentv_ff7   Click Here to Email Vincentv_ff7     
quote:
Originally posted by meep:
When Nature's Revolt is in play, do the lands in my graveyard, deck and hand count as creatures?

Only the lands in play will count as 2/2 creatures (this includes your opponent's lands too)

*EDIT* Bah, sawa_boon beat me to it
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posted January 24, 2003 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meep   Click Here to Email meep     
thanks!!!


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posted January 24, 2003 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Burai_Star   Click Here to Email Burai_Star     
Me and my friend had a game going and I had enough 1/1 tokens to kill him but he had a ensnaring bridge in play. He had one card in his hand and I attacked him. The card he had was a forbid. He tried to just cast it without anything else on the stack, in order to go down to zero cards in his hand. I told him he couldn't do that because there wasn't a legal target to counter. He argued and I need to know now before I break his nose. Please let me know.


TeenieBopper
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posted January 24, 2003 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TeenieBopper     
A counterspell must have a legal target, and can only target spells that are already on the stack. Because there are no spells on the stack, he cannot cast it.

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posted January 24, 2003 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Burai_Star   Click Here to Email Burai_Star     
HA I KNEW I BEAT THAT MOFO... WELL I STILL BEAT HIM IN A LITTLE BIT WITH MY MORPHLING, BUT YAH THANKS.


da-odd-templar
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posted January 24, 2003 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
Also, so your friend can't try to pull a fast one on you again, any spell must have a target in order to play it. I'm sure some cursed scroll players would love to just randomly cast spells.

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posted January 25, 2003 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swimmer   Click Here to Email Swimmer     
My opponenet plays a morphed down creature. I control magic the creature and see it to be an exalted angel. He has an astral slide in play. WHen he cycles a card targetting the morphed creature, does the exaled angel come back under his or my control?

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posted January 25, 2003 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
Astral Slide
Color: White
Type: Enchantment
Cost: 2W
Sets: ON(U)
Text(ON): Whenever a player cycles a card, you may remove target creature from the game. If you do, return that creature to play under its owner's control at end of turn.

It returns to play under it's owner's control, which in that example is your opponent.

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posted January 25, 2003 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swimmer   Click Here to Email Swimmer     
And the enchantment goes to the graveyard?

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posted January 25, 2003 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
Yes, when the creature leaves play, the control magic is no longer enchanting a permanent, and when state based effects are checked its put into the graveyard.

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posted January 25, 2003 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for -Vhati-il-dal-   Click Here to Email -Vhati-il-dal-     
Yes.


HustlerMay09
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posted January 26, 2003 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HustlerMay09   Click Here to Email HustlerMay09     
If I remove one of my creatures from the game with astral slide, and then upheaval. Doesn't the creature come back into play at the end of the turn?


-Vhati-il-dal-
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posted January 26, 2003 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for -Vhati-il-dal-   Click Here to Email -Vhati-il-dal-     
Yes.


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posted January 26, 2003 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raging_force   Click Here to Email raging_force     
quote:
Originally posted by HustlerMay09:
If I remove one of my creatures from the game with astral slide, and then upheaval. Doesn't the creature come back into play at the end of the turn?

Yes the creature comes back yo play. Upheaval doesnt effect the creatures outside the game

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posted January 26, 2003 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HustlerMay09   Click Here to Email HustlerMay09     
quote:
Originally posted by HustlerMay09:
If I remove one of my creatures from the game with astral slide, and then upheaval. Doesn't the creature come back into play at the end of the turn?

Basically what I'm asking is, in this post, http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/021447.html, is Boogers right, or am I right?



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posted January 26, 2003 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flyingmonkey   Click Here to Email flyingmonkey     
if i have, say a doomed necromancer, nantuko husk, and celestial gatekeeper in play, can i sac the gatekeeper to the husk, and then activate the gatekeepers ability but use the doomed necromancer to bring the gatekeeper back into play before the gatekeeper's remove from game ability kicks in? I prolly worded it wrong...but u'll prolly understand.


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posted January 26, 2003 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
quote:
Originally posted by HustlerMay09:
Basically what I'm asking is, in this post, http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/021447.html, is Boogers right, or am I right?


That link is dead, but it's not necessary. Boogers was probably right.

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posted January 26, 2003 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar   Click Here to Email da-odd-templar     
quote:
Originally posted by flyingmonkey:
if i have, say a doomed necromancer, nantuko husk, and celestial gatekeeper in play, can i sac the gatekeeper to the husk, and then activate the gatekeepers ability but use the doomed necromancer to bring the gatekeeper back into play before the gatekeeper's remove from game ability kicks in? I prolly worded it wrong...but u'll prolly understand.

What's celestial gatekeeper? It didn't come up in a ruling search.

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