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Tab
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posted December 31, 2002 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tab   Click Here to Email Tab     
I was looking up the ruling on brainstorm, and its sets were Ice age, Merc. Masq. and BD. What's BD, and is it type two?


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posted December 31, 2002 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TunaBoo     
Beatdown.

No it is not.

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posted January 01, 2003 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gzeiger   Click Here to Email gzeiger     
Actually...
quote:

Basalt Monolith
Cost: 3
Text(RV+errata): ~this~ doesn't untap during your untap step. ; {3}: Untap ~this~. ; {Tap}: Add three colorless mana to your mana pool. This mana can't be spent on abilities of permanents named Basalt Monolith. [Oracle 2001/08/24]


One of the first cards to receive errata to correct dumb stuff like that.

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posted January 01, 2003 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TunaBoo     
quote:
Originally posted by gzeiger:
Actually...
Basalt Monolith
Cost: 3
Text(RV+errata): ~this~ doesn't untap during your untap step. ; {3}: Untap ~this~. ; {Tap}: Add three colorless mana to your mana pool. This mana can't be spent on abilities of permanents named Basalt Monolith. [Oracle 2001/08/24]

One of the first cards to receive errata to correct dumb stuff like that.



But why did they fix this and not grim monolith? It makes NO sense. Right now it taps and untaps for no gain, it takes a power artifact to go ininite.

*boggle*

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posted January 01, 2003 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FyreStar   Click Here to Email FyreStar     
quote:
Originally posted by gzeiger:
Actually...
Basalt Monolith
Cost: 3
Text(RV+errata): ~this~ doesn't untap during your untap step. ; {3}: Untap ~this~. ; {Tap}: Add three colorless mana to your mana pool. This mana can't be spent on abilities of permanents named Basalt Monolith. [Oracle 2001/08/24]

One of the first cards to receive errata to correct dumb stuff like that.


That is why he included:

quote:
Initiates of the Ebon Hand
1/1. ; {1}: Add {B} to your mana pool. If this ability is played four or more times this turn, sacrifice ~this~ at end of turn.


After washing the mana, you can use it to untap the Basalt Monolith.

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posted January 01, 2003 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AgentTonTon   Click Here to Email AgentTonTon     
I have a queston regarding the Onslaught card Birchlore Rangers. If I play it first turn and then on my second turn play 2 llanowar elves can I immediatly tap the llanowar elves for an additional mana from Birchlore Ranger's ability? Does summoning sickness affect another creature's Ability?


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quote:
Originally posted by AgentTonTon:
I have a queston regarding the Onslaught card Birchlore Rangers. If I play it first turn and then on my second turn play 2 llanowar elves can I immediatly tap the llanowar elves for an additional mana from Birchlore Ranger's ability? Does summoning sickness affect another creature's Ability?


That play would be legal. Since the cost of Birchlore Rangers ability doesn't include the tap symbol, it can tap itself and other creatures even if they came into play this turn.

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posted January 01, 2003 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gzeiger   Click Here to Email gzeiger     
Didn't see that, Fyrestar

Monolith was originally changed to correct the interaction with Relic Bind (which itself received errata). There's really no point to it anymore, I think it just seems like a lot of work to change it back (and Power Artifact would then perhaps be playable).

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How does Meddling Mage effect cards with morph? For example, if I play a mage and call Exalted Angel, can he still play one as a 2/2? If so, can he just never morph it?

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Ok if an opponent gains control of a creature i just played during my last turn(using callous opperessor or something), can he attack with it that turn?

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quote:
Originally posted by jbp26:
How does Meddling Mage effect cards with morph? For example, if I play a mage and call Exalted Angel, can he still play one as a 2/2? If so, can he just never morph it?


He can do both. Since the card being played is face-down, it has no name. Once it is in play, paying the morph cost is just an ability that flips over the card; it is already in play, so it can't be stopped by Meddling Mage.
quote:
Originally posted by rjohnson189:
Ok if an opponent gains control of a creature i just played during my last turn(using callous opperessor or something), can he attack with it that turn?


No. A creature without haste cannot attack or use abilities with the tap symbol until it has been under your control since the beginning of your turn. The same thing applies to your opponent. Since he didn't control the stolen creature since the beginning of his turn, he's can't attack with it.

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quote:
Originally posted by jbp26:
How does Meddling Mage effect cards with morph? For example, if I play a mage and call Exalted Angel, can he still play one as a 2/2? If so, can he just never morph it?


yes you could still morph the card named by meddling mage. in your example if exalted angle was named your opponent could play it morphed, and then pay its morph cost to turn it face up.


quote:
Originally posted by rjohnson189:
Ok if an opponent gains control of a creature i just played during my last turn(using callous opperessor or something), can he attack with it that turn?


no a creature without haste has summoning sickness unless it begins the turn under your control.so if you take control of a creature that has been in play for lets say 5 turns. even though it didnt have summoning sickness with your opponent anymore, it would still have sickness with you, as it didnt start the turn under your control.

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If you sac a Rotlung Reanimator to a Nantuko Husk, do you get a zombie token?


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quote:
Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
If you sac a Rotlung Reanimator to a Nantuko Husk, do you get a zombie token?

Yes. It sees itself as it is going poof.

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If I have a triskelion in play, can I put a 1/1 counter on it using another card such as extruder and then remove it to have it deal one damage to another creature or player?
Thanks in advance.



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posted January 02, 2003 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Black Rain   Click Here to Email Black Rain     
yes you can

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If I have 2 Words of War in play, can't I tap 2 mana instead of drawing to deal 4 damage, activating each WoW? Or can I only do one?

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quote:
Originally posted by STAT1C_X:
If I have 2 Words of War in play, can't I tap 2 mana instead of drawing to deal 4 damage, activating each WoW? Or can I only do one?

No. A single activation of Words of War will replace your next draw with the 2 points of damage. A second activation will wait around until it gets another draw to replace, or until the end of turn.

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if my opponent uses a masticore on my call token twice, can i in response to his third ping disenchant the core?


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quote:
Originally posted by rjohnson189:
if my opponent uses a masticore on my call token twice, can i in response to his third ping disenchant the core?

yes but the ping would stilltake effect
removing a creature doesnt remove the ability if the ability has already been activated. the masticore would die, but the 3rd ping would still take effect.

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thats what i thought, thanks black rain and fyre

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quote:
Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
If you sac a Rotlung Reanimator to a Nantuko Husk, do you get a zombie token?

An additional information, if u control 4 rotlung reanimator and u play wrath of god, u get 16 zombie tokens



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If Planar Void is in play and I play Energy Field does this make it so I can play spells freely without having to worry about being dmaged or energy field leaving play because cards never hit the graveyard


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No, because the card still hits the graveyard with a Planar Void in play.

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My oponent plays a Mesmeric Fiend, and chooses some card from my hand to remove
1) Can I Wish for the card?

2) What happens then when the Fiend leaves play?

3) Suppose I wished for it and the card is removed from game because of a Dissipate, do I still get it back when the Fiend dies?

thanks!!!

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