posted January 09, 2003 08:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Trag3dy:
im in search of a second opinion.

Future Sight

Wild Mongrel

can i discard cards to the wild mongrel from my deck, i mean the card does say play as though it were in your hand, and then wild mongrels ability. regardless of this "its still considered your library" i mean, it can be played, right? boy wizards,....whew.

Trag3dy

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Straight from the Onslaught FAQ (don't worry, future sight confuses lots of people) ...

"* The top card of your library isn't in your hand, so you can't cycle it, discard it, or play any of its activated abilities."

posted January 09, 2003 09:59 PM         

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Originally posted by moxdiamd:
Can I use an "Animate dead" to get a creature out of the graveyard that cannot be the target of spells or effects. Does the creature go right back to the graveyard since the animate dead cannot taget the creature?

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Short answer:
1) "Cannot be target" only is in effect when the card is in play.
2) When you cast animate dead, it is not targeting an in play creature (see 1).
3) Once the enchantment is on the creature, "cannot be the target" stuff does NOT cause it to fall off.

So yes, you can.

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posted January 10, 2003 08:26 AM            

2) When my opponent has two Lightning Rifts in play, can he pay one mana for each rift when he cycles a card? He claims he can, since both Rifts saw the cards being cycled.

posted January 10, 2003 08:30 AM            

"At end of turn..." triggers go on the stack at the beginning of the end step. Any that trigger after these are on the stack do not get added to the stack, but instead wait until the next end step to go on the stack. In short, your friend is correct... if, during the end step, you "slide" a creature, it will not return until the next end of turn.

2) When my opponent has two Lightning Rifts in play, can he pay one mana for each rift when he cycles a card? He claims he can, since both Rifts saw the cards being cycled.

posted January 10, 2003 08:31 AM         

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Originally posted by mulder:
1) When do end of turn abilities trigger? For example, my opponent has an Astral Slide in play. At the end of his turn, he cycles some card and removes one of my creatures from play. He says that it comes back at the end of my turn, because end of turn effects trigger at the beginning of the end of turn phase. Correct?

2) When my opponent has two Lightning Rifts in play, can he pay one mana for each rift when he cycles a card? He claims he can, since both Rifts saw the cards being cycled.

Thanks

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1) Yes. During the cleanup phase, the end of turn trigger goes on the stack. If he cycles a card so it resolves after the end of turn trigger, your creature will be gone for the entire next turn as you said.

2) Yes. Read the wording on the card.

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Whenever a player cycles a card, you may pay {1}. If you do, ~this~ deals 2 damage to target creature or player.

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By having 2 out they don't magically combine or something. Each is a seperate thing. If you have 2 slides and 2 rifts, cycling 1 card is 2 creatures removed and 4 damage (if you pay 2)

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posted January 10, 2003 11:20 AM            

No, you could not.

Here's Phage's text...

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When Phage the Untouchable comes into play, if you didn't play it from your hand, you lose the game.

Whenever Phage deals combat damage to a creature, destroy that creature. It can't be regenerated.

Whenever Phage deals combat damage to a player, that player loses the game.

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T.4 - Step 1: Announcing a Spell or Ability
T.4.1 - This is also called "playing" a spell or ability. [D'Angelo 1999/05/01]

posted January 10, 2003 11:56 AM         

Entomb phage. My opponent entombs and tries to animate dead his worldgouger. Can I misdirect it to my phage for the win

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posted January 10, 2003 12:07 PM         

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Originally posted by grimmer:
That would work. The enchantment targets during announcement and misdirection would change the target. They would lose.

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posted January 10, 2003 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by TunaBoo:
Does my mega cool combo work?

Entomb phage. My opponent entombs and tries to animate dead his worldgouger. Can I misdirect it to my phage for the win

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That does not work. Animate Dead doesn't have a target when you announce it. It enters play as a global enchantment, then switches to an enchant creatre as a triggered ability. Here's the oracle text:

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Animate Dead

Color= Black Type= Enchantment Cost= 1B A(U)/B(U)/U(U)/R(U)/4(U)/5(U)
Text (5th+errata): When ~this~ comes into play, if it's in play, it becomes an enchant creature. Put target creature card from a graveyard into play under your control enchanted by ~this~. ; Enchanted creature gets -1/-0. ; When ~this~ leaves play, destroy enchanted creature. It can't be regenerated. [Oracle 2001/08/24]

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posted January 10, 2003 12:35 PM         

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Put target creature card from a graveyard into play under your control enchanted by ~this~.

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So it only targets on resolution?

Man, this almost has more erreta than cauldron.

*head hurts*

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posted January 10, 2003 12:52 PM            

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Originally posted by TunaBoo:
What am I missing?

So it only targets on resolution?

Man, this almost has more erreta than cauldron.

*head hurts*

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Here's how Animate Dead goes, these days:

Animate Dead is announced, goes on the stack, and resolves. It hasn't targetted anything yet. As it resolves, the card enters play as a global enchantment. As soon as it finishes resolving, state-based effects are checked and then Animate Dead's triggered ability...

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When ~this~ comes into play, if it's in play, it becomes an enchant creature. Put target creature card from a graveyard into play under your control enchanted by ~this~.

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Note that you can cast Animate Dead without any creatures in your graveyard; it will end up sitting in play as a global enchantment without doing anything.

posted January 10, 2003 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by grimmer:
I just saw the new Phage card, and i was wondering if you could use cards like Cryptic Gateway or Sneak Attack to put it into play without losing the game. If not could you please explain why?

No, you could not.

Here's Phage's text...

T.4 - Step 1: Announcing a Spell or Ability
T.4.1 - This is also called "playing" a spell or ability. [D'Angelo 1999/05/01]

You must actually cast the Phage in order to not lose the game. If you put it into play, its "lose game" trigger will cause you to lose.

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Shouldn't it say "cast" then?

posted January 10, 2003 08:21 PM            

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Originally posted by porky:
Simple question

I'm playing a opposition deck and in my opponent's upkeep I tap my opponents creatures and lands but he stills has mana to play somthing. He plays a Blistering Firecat. In response can i tap 1 of my creature to tap his cat.

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You wouldn't tap the Firecat in response, but you do have a chance to tap it before he can attack with it.

posted January 11, 2003 09:58 AM         

if not, why ?

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posted January 11, 2003 10:33 AM            

1.) Have humility out, play Phage, disenchant humility.

2.) Play her using Illusionary Mask.

3.) Discard her to a volrath's shapeshifter in play. Attack the opponent, kill the opponent.

4.) Maybe another, I'm too tired.

Phage does not work with Show and Tell, Timmy, Power Gamer, Elvish Piper, that artifact from saga block that works like Timmy, Reya, Dawnbringer, Sneak Attack, Retraced Image, etc. Gotta play it from your hand, put it on the stack, and pay all costs. (and make all decisions required, but none required for Phage).

posted January 12, 2003 06:10 PM            

#1:If i have Chainer in play and my opponent plays faceless butcher and removes him does his butcher get removed from the game. Chainer says "when he leaves play remove all nightmares from the game". now doesn't the butcher have to hit play in order to remove chainer?

#2:If i have cryptic gateway in play can i tap 2 untapped beasts to put a beast into play at anytime?

#3:If i have 2 gratiutious violence in play and i deal say 3 damage would it be 6 damage or 12 because i have 2 in play? And the same goes for Aether Charge would it deal 4 or 8 damage when i bring a beast into play.