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Gombies Member	posted June 12, 2001 10:02 PM quote: Originally posted by Tom: I have a powerstone minefield question. Does protection from red or white stop creatures from taking the two damage. My guess is no, as the spell does not target the creature it just says "whenever a creature attacks or blocks, powerstone minefield does two damage to it", but I could be wrong. Thanks for the help in advance By the way it is very confusing to have 3 or 4 people answering the same question differently. I just read 9 pages to get here and I still am not sure on the wash-out question. No, the dmg will still be prevented
trax72 Member	posted June 13, 2001 05:30 AM Vegeta19: No, it doesn't die - the Legend rule only applies if there are 2 or more Legends/Legendary permanents with the same name. So just spend 1 more mana to make the other Scuta a Legend too to get rid of one. Tom: The damage is still prevented, that's one of the things protection does. It prevents all damage from a source of that color or type. As for the Wash Out thing, my answer was right, hehe For the relevant rules, look at Juss' post. magicmaster5000: I won't comment on the fact Goblin Game is even used (hehe) but the answer's quite simple, really. The other player played it so he gets to hide objects first. 413.2d If an instruction requires both players to make choices or take actions, the active player makes and announces his or hers first, then his or her opponent does (knowing the first player's choices). This is called the "active player rule." Then, the actions are processed simultaneously. [Edited 1 times, lastly by trax72 on June 13, 2001]
magicmaster5000 Member	posted June 13, 2001 06:23 AM Thanks for the help on Goblin Game... Boy I love that card... __________________ e-mail: derangeddaveii@hotmail.com If you judged me, would it make me any less of than what I am? If you assumed I would fail, would it affect my outcome? If you called me a loser, would it change my life? If you knew what you were talking about, would I be writing this? [Edited 2 times, lastly by magicmaster5000 on June 13, 2001]
Inzane Member	posted June 13, 2001 03:21 PM quote: Originally posted by magicmaster5000: Thanks for the help on Goblin Game... Boy I love that card... Hehe, ya, steal the other guy's pants and make him forefit to get 'em back Anyways, one quick question If there's a shifting skies and a kavu chameleon in play (changing to red), which one takes priority?...what if it was a shifting skies and a thran lens?
Llan Member	posted June 13, 2001 03:55 PM quote: Originally posted by Inzane: Anyways, one quick question If there's a shifting skies and a kavu chameleon in play (changing to red), which one takes priority?...what if it was a shifting skies and a thran lens? Things like this depend on the timestamp. The color of the color change of course has the newer timestamp, so that one counts. __________________ --- Check out the all new designedwww.teammanascrew.com self-created Magic expansions and more, now with the new set "Triumph of Evil", last part of the Evil trilogy
Vegeta19 Member	posted June 13, 2001 04:12 PM You see thats were I still get confused because don't the Scutas still have the same name only one is a legend and one is a zombie. __________________ "D-VON! Get the muffins!.. Thank You."-Perry Saturn "British People fight Dragons so they don't get all firery.. Thank you."-Perry Saturn
Inzane Member	posted June 13, 2001 05:22 PM quote: Originally posted by Vegeta19: You see thats were I still get confused because don't the Scutas still have the same name only one is a legend and one is a zombie. Exactly, but the legend rule only triggers when there is 2 legends with the same name in play...so you need to change both the scuta's to legends instead of zombies.
Shane Battier Fan Member	posted June 14, 2001 08:11 AM If you put a transmorgifiyig licid on a creature, it makes the creature "an artifact instead of any other kind of permenant". But say I want to destroy that creature with predator flagship, which says destroy target creature. The "artifact" can still attack, but can I destroy it? Is it still a creature? Also, do plains count as permantants? My friend wont believe they dont unless i ask here. __________________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy"
Drengar Member	posted June 14, 2001 08:46 AM quote: Originally posted by Shane Battier Fan: If you put a transmorgifiyig licid on a creature, it makes the creature "an artifact instead of any other kind of permenant". But say I want to destroy that creature with predator flagship, which says destroy target creature. The "artifact" can still attack, but can I destroy it? Is it still a creature? Well it says: The enchanted creature becomes an artifact creature. It loses all other types it may have had So yes it's still is a creature quote: Originally posted by Shane Battier Fan: Also, do plains count as permantants? My friend wont believe they dont unless i ask here. Yes all spells except Sorcery's and instants are permanents __________________ For trading you can always contact me at my mail: Drengar@hotmail.com i also use MSN and icq: 23490287 Fire, Ice, Wind and Water, all just basic - Drengar , Dark Wizard - Judge in Training
Drengar Member	posted June 14, 2001 09:07 AM quote: Originally posted by Inzane: Anyways, one quick question If there's a shifting skies and a kavu chameleon in play (changing to red), which one takes priority?...what if it was a shifting skies and a thran lens? Well it's already in play you make it somethin else it's red untill end of turn no question possible __________________ For trading you can always contact me at my mail: Drengar@hotmail.com i also use MSN and icq: 23490287 Fire, Ice, Wind and Water, all just basic - Drengar , Dark Wizard - Judge in Training
spaepiper Member	posted June 14, 2001 10:03 AM I am wondering, can you sacrafice a creature for no reason? For instance, can I sac my Academy Rector just so that I can get out a big enchantment? Thanks for the help. Spaepiper __________________ Dying is a soldier's talent.
Drengar Member	posted June 14, 2001 10:06 AM quote: Originally posted by spaepiper: I am wondering, can you sacrafice a creature for no reason? For instance, can I sac my Academy Rector just so that I can get out a big enchantment? Thanks for the help. Spaepiper No sorry you cant __________________ For trading you can always contact me at my mail: Drengar@hotmail.com i also use MSN and icq: 23490287 Fire, Ice, Wind and Water, all just basic - Drengar , Dark Wizard - Judge in Training
Gombies Member	posted June 14, 2001 03:47 PM quote: Originally posted by Drengar: Okay good job all although a judge correcting another and so on isnt very good is it anyway correct awnsers: [b]Gombies - You play washout he / she can react you choose color he / she can react again [/B] quote: Originally posted by Gombies: So he/she(in this case, he. I don't think in magic history that many girls would go to the JSS) Are you sure he can react again? that is not what that judge told me not like it would have mattered. The judge told me since it resolved already or something, he cannot respond to it anymore anybody answer?
Yeti Boy Member	posted June 14, 2001 04:41 PM If Lifeline is tapped, does the ability still go off if there is a creature in play? __________________ MY H/W LIST: I need 2 Vindicate, 4 Spectral Lynx, 4 Wrath of God (7th), 2 Tangle Wire and more... MY REFS
stuck in 99 Member	posted June 14, 2001 04:59 PM Okay, I bring an Elvish Piper into play with one mana left. During my opponent's turn can I use his ability to bring in a creature, since you can play abilities when you could play an instant, and creatures can't tap the turn they come into play under your control. (Because I'm using it durng there turn.) I think I can do it, but some people disagree with me. Please clear this up.
Drengar Member	posted June 14, 2001 05:16 PM Yeti Boy - Tapped artifacts still work stuck in 99 - you CANT play abils that tap a creature untill your next UNTAP phase __________________ For trading you can always contact me at my mail: Drengar@hotmail.com i also use MSN and icq: 23490287 Rozes are dead violets are too I wish i had one more day Just like you Judge in Training
trax72 Member	posted June 15, 2001 11:05 AM Gombies: Your question was already answered, you can't respond anymore once Wash Out has started to resolve - and during resolution the color is picked so you can't do anything about it. Just change it to the same color as your opponent's permanents, that'll make him think twice about picking that color. Yeti Boy: Artifacts' abilities still work when they're tapped, I believe this was changed when 6th Ed. rules came out. There are some artifacts that got errata though, so they still work that way. Examples: Howling Mine, Static Orb. stuck in 99: You can't use creature abilities that require Tapping unless it's been under your control since the beginning of your last turn (formerly known as summoning sickness). In other words, not during the opponent's turn either - unless that creature has Haste somehow.
Vipertgo781 Member	posted June 15, 2001 11:58 AM I was wondering if someone could use a deflection on a consume strength? deflection reads one target, so could somebody deflect one of consume strangths targets? I say no, but my friend disagreed. Please e-mail me. Thank you.
HanSolo6385 Member	posted June 15, 2001 12:15 PM quote: Originally posted by Vipertgo781: I was wondering if someone could use a deflection on a consume strength? deflection reads one target, so could somebody deflect one of consume strangths targets? I say no, but my friend disagreed. Please e-mail me. Thank you. No because Consume Strength targets two creatures. Deflection only works on a spell that targets one thing. __________________ Most People Drank from the Fountain of Knowledge, I just gargled, rinsed, and spit. HanSolo's Refs Screen Name: SURFNSKI4REAL E-mail: SURFNSKI4REAL@aol.com Most References In Colorado!!
Ironhorse75 Member	posted June 15, 2001 11:44 PM If I have an altar of dementia in play and a lifeline, one creature (to make lifeline work), and a few more and they require me to sac a creature during my upkeep... can I sac one of the creatures to the altar or do I have to sac a creature not being a part of another ability or upkeep cost?
taz Member	posted June 16, 2001 02:05 AM Hi When does a creature put damage on the stack? __________________ best regards /Fredrik Forssen (roger.forssen@telia.com)
Qu@$!modo Member	posted June 16, 2001 03:15 AM My friend has an Opposition-Static Orb deck (Orbossition whatever you like to call it) and He says that if you tap the static orb at the end of your opponents turn, you can untap everything cuz the orb will be tapped during your upkeep. But the Untap phase comes first I think, doesn't it!!! PLZ LMK ASAP
Drengar Member	posted June 16, 2001 04:33 AM Ironhorse75 - As long as you have creatures to sac on the required sec thing you gotta do that taz - At the end of the combat phase Qu@$!modo - Well that USED to work in the time that tapped artifact wont work but it doesnt anymore __________________ For trading you can always contact me at my mail: Drengar@hotmail.com i also use MSN and icq: 23490287 Rozes are dead violets are too I wish i had one more day Just like you Judge in Training
trax72 Member	posted June 16, 2001 05:03 AM Ironhorse75: What you're trying to do will probably not work, but your description is kinda vague to say the least. If you have stuff like Devouring Strossus out then yes, you'll have to sac a creature at your upkeep when the triggered ability resolves. As long as there's another creature out at that time, it'll return at the end of turn. taz: Assigning damage and putting it on the stack is a mandatory action at the beginning of the Combat Damage step. Note that there might be a seperate Combat Damage step if any creatures involved in combat have first strike. Qu@$!modo/Drengar: Yes, that works. He can use Opposition to tap the Static Orb at the end of your turn so when his own Untap Step starts, the ability won't work and he can untap everything. Static Orb is one of the cards that got errata so it still works this way - I happened to mention that in a previous post on this page. EDIT: Static Orb has nothing to do with the Upkeep Step, it just modifies what happens during the Untap Step. [Edited 1 times, lastly by trax72 on June 16, 2001]
Drengar Member	posted June 16, 2001 05:09 AM Okay srry i had a old static orb lying next to me and it just says cant untap more then to blabla anyway tnx for the notification on the errata __________________ For trading you can always contact me at my mail: Drengar@hotmail.com i also use MSN and icq: 23490287 Rozes are dead violets are too I wish i had one more day Just like you Judge in Training

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