posted July 02, 2001 11:45 AM            

any shieldbearer+dplomatic imunity

posted July 02, 2001 12:21 PM            

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posted July 03, 2001 09:13 PM            

is Planar Voids effect a replacement effect? for example like Serra Avatar, cards never "actually" go into the graveyard but instead leave the game. If so, lets put energy field in play with a planar void, no cards actually hit the graveyard so the field is safe.?

If you animate , lets say, a mountain. is it a red creature or just a colorless creature that produces R?

If I phase out cards like desolation angel, giant, flametoungue kavus, when they phase back in, do thier abilities re-trigger?

posted July 03, 2001 10:39 PM            

I have megrim, warped devotion and a black critter out.
my opponent has 3 black critters.
I washout calling black. According to stack rules, I decide which things pick up first.
I choose his 3 critters, then my warped devotion, megrim, then critter.he has to discard 3 from the critters bouncing. the argument is, do I have to discard 3, or does the devotions ability become negated when it goes to my hand? I watched 2 shop owners almost box over this.

my 2 cents? the devotions ability resolves AFTER the washout resolves, therefore making me discard 3.lmk!

posted July 04, 2001 01:35 AM            

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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
No, agenda doesn't remember itself

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Oh yes, it does.
Drop an Agenda -> no more spells this turn.

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posted July 04, 2001 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by bejeezus:
okay, this is a question that was "Heatedly" debated sat. at a tourney...

I have megrim, warped devotion and a black critter out.
my opponent has 3 black critters.
I washout calling black. According to stack rules, I decide which things pick up first.
I choose his 3 critters, then my warped devotion, megrim, then critter.he has to discard 3 from the critters bouncing. the argument is, do I have to discard 3, or does the devotions ability become negated when it goes to my hand? I watched 2 shop owners almost box over this.

my 2 cents? the devotions ability resolves AFTER the washout resolves, therefore making me discard 3.lmk!

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You are basically right. But you will not "decide" that your opponent picks up the three cards. When Wash Out resolves, first thing you do is choose a color. Then you as an active player pick up your permanents. The trigger condition for the Warped Devotion is met. Your opponent picks up the permanents - the trigger condition for the Megrim and Warped Devotion is met. Wash Out has resolved, you as an active player get priority and have to put both Warped Devotion's and Megrim's abilities on the stack in order as you choose (because they triggered at the same time, during the same event). And as a result, both players have to discard for Warped Devotion.
That should be correct.

Please note, that according to the 2001 Floor Rules, tournament players are not allowed to bet or wager on the boxing match between the shop owners.

posted July 04, 2001 04:28 AM            

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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
a little q/a:

is Planar Voids effect a replacement effect? for example like Serra Avatar, cards never "actually" go into the graveyard but instead leave the game. If so, lets put energy field in play with a planar void, no cards actually hit the graveyard so the field is safe.?

If you animate , lets say, a mountain. is it a red creature or just a colorless creature that produces R?

If I phase out cards like desolation angel, giant, flametoungue kavus, when they phase back in, do thier abilities re-trigger?

just some questions for strange deck ideas.

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Planar Void
Color=Black Type=Enchantment Cost=B US(U1)
Text(US): Whenever a card is put into a graveyard, remove that card from the game.

The card does go to the graveyard before it is removed from the game, so other triggered abilities like Energy Field will trigger on the card going to the graveyard. [D'Angelo 99/01/12]
It will trigger on itself going to the graveyard from play and remove itself from the game. [D'Angelo 99/01/12]
It will trigger on any cards going to the graveyard at the same time it does, and it will remove them from the game. [D'Angelo 99/03/06]
If Disenchant is used on it, Planar Void goes to the graveyard (and removes itself), then Disenchant goes to the graveyard and stays there. [DeLaney 99/01/18]

That should answer to your question...

2)If the animating effect does not specify the color, then the Mountain is colorless.

3)Phasing in does _not_ trigger the permanent's CIP abilities.

posted July 04, 2001 04:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Gombies:
For example, my friend was playing a patterns of rebith deck and let's say i have a morphling out.

He sac the creature that has patterns of rebirth on it then go get acedemy rector and saced academy rector. Then he got conficate and i confiscate and he said that i could still control the morphling because it never had the word "target" and could not make it fizzle by making it untargetable. the store ower(judge) came over said he was right on that ruling. Does that mean i could conficae blastoderm with a conficate? or put a armadillo cloak on a blastoderm?

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He could get your Morphling because the enchantment (Confiscate) was brought into play directly via Academy Rector's ability. Then the Enchant Creature really does not target the creature.
Creature Enchantments target the creature when they are played, but not when they are brought into play directly. Rector or Replenish could help you put 'Dillo Cloaks or Confiscates onto Blastoderm.

posted July 04, 2001 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by asphinx:
The card Mesa Falcon was changed from a falcon to a bird in the 6th edition reprint. Are all falcons now birds? If so, what else are also considered birds now? hawks? pigeons? owls? is there a list?

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Anyone? My friend was trying to build a bird deck but we don't know what counts.

posted July 05, 2001 07:48 PM            

1. Can you tap tapped permanents?

For example, I have two plague rats and a tradewind rider. Can I tap the already tapped rats with the rider for the rider's effect? I think the ruling on this has shifted and I don't know what the current one is... TIA!

Edit: Okay, bad example because Tradewind Rider has errata (DOH!) But the question remains, can you tap tapped permanents?

posted July 06, 2001 12:11 AM            

EX: You can tap a tapped creature with icy manipulator since the only targeting requirement is that it be a target artifact creature, or land (it says nothing about being untapped).

Sorry, not worth my time to answer question then e-mail the answer. This way it helps others as well anyways

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posted July 10, 2001 05:37 AM            

t_bone67:

Using Spiritmonger's ability changes all the colors it once had into the new color. You cannot change only one part of his color...it all changes.

But sadly, there is something you need to know. The person casting wash-out does not name the color until the resolution of the spell, so they can just let you change the colors all you want, and then when wash-out resolves, they just name the last color you changed the spiritmonger to.

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posted July 10, 2001 02:30 PM            

okay,..i have a blastoderm and a horned kavu in play,....can i technically cast consume strength on the blastoderm to have it do no effect and give the horned kavu +2/+2??

posted July 10, 2001 02:33 PM            

Dawnbreaker: No you can not. Blastoderm can not be the target of spells oor abilities at all.

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posted July 14, 2001 07:52 AM            

pls lmk

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