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Discomaster Member	posted July 28, 2001 07:21 PM If I have a Samite Elder in play, and I tap it to give all creatures protection from white, and I play Wrath of God, will my creatures live or die? __________________ Any way you want it, thats the way you need it! ~~ Journey
r0cheb0y Member	posted July 29, 2001 05:22 AM hey..i play a deck where gaea's cradle is very important. Gaea's Cradle Color=Land Type=Legendary Land Cost=None US(R1) Text(US): {Tap}: Add {G} to your mana pool for each creature you control. Is considered to have an ability that generates green mana, even if you control no creatures. [WotC Rules Team 99/03/18] does this mean gaea's cradle makes a green mana without a creature in play? thanks r0che
da-odd-templar Member	posted July 29, 2001 05:27 AM quote: Originally posted by r0cheb0y: hey..i play a deck where gaea's cradle is very important. Gaea's Cradle Color=Land Type=Legendary Land Cost=None US(R1) Text(US): {Tap}: Add {G} to your mana pool for each creature you control. [b]Is considered to have an ability that generates green mana, even if you control no creatures. [WotC Rules Team 99/03/18] does this mean gaea's cradle makes a green mana without a creature in play? thanks r0che [/B] No, it just means that if a card counts all things that add Green mana to your mana pool, it counts that too. It also means that if you have out a cradle and no creatures and a reflecting pool, you can still tap the pool for G. __________________ Stinky cheese is still cheese. Last night I stayed up late playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died. - Stephen Wright Rice Cube - The next Azn Sensation! Proud member of The Rice Collective.
r0cheb0y Member	posted July 29, 2001 05:32 AM thanks..and another question.. if i have nature's revolt/pendrall mist in play..at the beginning of my upkeep..can i cast crop rotation then search for cradle and play for all my creatures? r0che
da-odd-templar Member	posted July 29, 2001 05:42 AM quote: Originally posted by Discomaster: If I have a Samite Elder in play, and I tap it to give all creatures protection from white, and I play Wrath of God, will my creatures live or die? 502.7b A permanent with protection can't be targeted by spells or abilities that have the stated quality, and can't be enchanted by enchantments that have the stated quality. In addition, any damage that would be dealt to it from sources having that quality is prevented. If it attacks, it can't be blocked by creatures having that quality. So since Wrath of God doesn't target, doesn't deal damage, and isn't enchanting anything, the creatures die. However, if your opponent casts Earthquake, you can give your creatures protection from red and your creatures will live, since earthquake deals damage. __________________ Stinky cheese is still cheese. Last night I stayed up late playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died. - Stephen Wright Rice Cube - The next Azn Sensation! Proud member of The Rice Collective.
SuperJimmy Member	posted July 29, 2001 01:44 PM Question, I dunno if it has been asked yet. How does Ghitu Fire work with Nightscape Familiar? The Familiar reduces the Fire's cost by 1 colorless mana. If I wanted to do 10 damage to an opponent, I'd have to pay a total of 11. According to this ruling: K.27.Ruling.1 - The value of 'X' is chosen when announcing the spell (before you pay the mana cost) and you cannot change this value later. does this mean that the familiar cannot change the cost of the X to X-1? Or does it mean that the X number is given, first, so say...10...then when you pay the cost, the familiar reduces it to 9, but the "X" cost is still considered 10 when doing the damage?
qijo Member	posted July 30, 2001 12:07 PM Are the effects of Necra Sanctuary cumualative? As in, if there were two Necra's out, would the opponent lose 6 life?
TaBlah555 Member	posted July 30, 2001 01:01 PM quote: Originally posted by qijo: Are the effects of Necra Sanctuary cumualative? As in, if there were two Necra's out, would the opponent lose 6 life? Yes __________________ #1 Poster/References in South Carolina Yea, though I walk through the qualifier of death, I will fear no deck. For I am playing with the best fattie ever printed. He is my rod and my staff and he maketh my opponents lie down before me and get eaten by dinosaurs.
Inzane Member	posted July 30, 2001 02:38 PM quote: Originally posted by SuperJimmy: Question, I dunno if it has been asked yet. How does Ghitu Fire work with Nightscape Familiar? The Familiar reduces the Fire's cost by 1 colorless mana. If I wanted to do 10 damage to an opponent, I'd have to pay a total of 11. According to this ruling: K.27.Ruling.1 - The value of 'X' is chosen when announcing the spell (before you pay the mana cost) and you cannot change this value later. does this mean that the familiar cannot change the cost of the X to X-1? Or does it mean that the X number is given, first, so say...10...then when you pay the cost, the familiar reduces it to 9, but the "X" cost is still considered 10 when doing the damage? The answer to this is in the rulings for Helm of Awakening: Color: Artifact Type: Artifact Cost: 2 Sets: VI(U1) Text(VI+errata): Spells cost one generic mana less to play. [Oracle 99/07/01] * The generic X cost is still considered generic even if there is a requirement that a specific color be used for it. For example, "only black mana can be spent this way". This distinction is important for effects which reduce the generic portion of a spell's cost. For example, if you had two Helms in play (each reduces the generic costs of all spells by 1), you could cast a Drain Life for just {B} and still do 1 damage. [WotC Rules Team 97/06/01] [Duelist Magazine #19, Page 26]
DkFriend Member	posted July 30, 2001 03:27 PM Is there a type 2 card that says your lands cannot be the target of spells or ability? __________________ DkFriend DkFriend@hotmail.com Captain DkFriend of Gab Moonstone Team www.gabtraders.com Spy DkFriend of the Bounty Hunter Guild Member of Jedi_Arena http://jedi_arena.tripod.com/index.html DkFriend #21 Member of The Wookiee Alliance II http://angelfire.com/ia2/twa2/
TaBlah555 Member	posted July 30, 2001 03:37 PM quote: Originally posted by LlanowarDeath: Hello There is a Land Called 'lotus vale'. (everyone know what's it?) Can I tap this land mana after it come into play and then sacrifice it before i sacrifice 2 other lands?? Thanks People alreayd answered this question for you in another post! The answer is NO! __________________ #1 Poster/References in South Carolina Yea, though I walk through the qualifier of death, I will fear no deck. For I am playing with the best fattie ever printed. He is my rod and my staff and he maketh my opponents lie down before me and get eaten by dinosaurs.
Inzane Member	posted July 30, 2001 05:10 PM quote: Originally posted by DkFriend: Is there a type 2 card that says your lands cannot be the target of spells or ability? Spiritual Asylum
StriderHry Member	posted August 02, 2001 05:38 AM If my opponent Quashes an Obliterate does he remove all copies of it from the game? __________________ " I always need Morphlings, Kegs, Disks, Wastelands, and FoWs." You will always get something from me for em. If you repond to a post w/ email plz copy and paste the deal so I remember it. " I enjoy a good laugh just as much as the next guy." - Commodore Gruff Self Acclaimed Draw Go Master
Renaud Member	posted August 02, 2001 11:18 AM Do I still maintain control of my opponent's legendary permanent swiped by Empress Galina after she (Galina) is killed?
Inzane Member	posted August 03, 2001 06:46 PM quote: Originally posted by Renaud: Do I still maintain control of my opponent's legendary permanent swiped by Empress Galina after she (Galina) is killed? yes
Donater Member	posted August 04, 2001 09:42 AM Glacial Chasm Land Cumulative upkeep - Pay 2 life If Glacial Chasm would come into play, sacrifice a land instead. If you do, put Glacial Chasm into play. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard. Skip your combat phase. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you. If my opponent doesn't pay the upkeep does the card go to the graveyard or does he have to pay upkeep no matter what.
trax72 Member	posted August 05, 2001 05:25 AM r0cheb0y: Nope that wouldn't work, because you won't be able to use the Cradle's ability yet since it still has summoning sickness. Just use Crop Rotation at the end of the opponent's turn and it will work. StriderHry: Not all copies, since Obliterate can't be countered it stays on the stack during Quash's resolution and is not removed from the game. So all other copies will be RFG'd, then the Obliterate will resolve and go to the graveyard. Donater: If the cumulative upkeep isn't paid it has to be sacrificed. Cumulative Upkeep Cumulative upkeep is an upkeep-triggered ability. "Cumulative upkeep - [cost]" means "At the beginning of your upkeep, put a cumulative upkeep counter on this card. You may pay [cost] for each cumulative upkeep counter on the card. If you don't, sacrifice it." Note that if a card has more than one cumulative upkeep cost, each creates a separate triggered ability at the beginning of upkeep that counts all the cumulative upkeep counters on the card from both abilities. See rule 410, "Handling Triggered Abilities."
Renaud Member	posted August 06, 2001 12:24 PM Inzane - thanks. My friend still doesn't think I should be able to maintain control of his creature after Empress Galina dies though, because of the ruling on Meddling Mage; its effect ends when it leaves play. Of course this same guy doesn't think Cromat satisfies one of the two win conditions for Coalition Victory - he says I need 5 separate permanents, this blurb from the Invasion FAQ notwithstanding. A land which is of multiple types or creature which is of multiple colors counts for each of its types and/or colors. [Invasion FAQ 00/10/03] Says he got the ruling from a DCI judge. Does everyone agree with this "ruling?"
MAGIC is CARDBOARD crack Member	posted August 06, 2001 12:26 PM Do you think maybe, just maybe you should start a Part 2? __________________ its crack...its crack, magic is crack Please, i need Urza's rages, Im begging your, please trade me them!!!! Please??? i'll be your friend!!!
Inzane Member	posted August 06, 2001 01:39 PM quote: Originally posted by Renaud: A land which is of multiple types or creature which is of multiple colors counts for each of its types and/or colors. [Invasion FAQ 00/10/03] Says he got the ruling from a DCI judge. Does everyone agree with this "ruling?" This ruling is legit, if you pop coalition victory into the rulings search you get this...so basically, a creature of multiple colours (i.e. cromat, sliver queen) counts for each of it's colours, and therefore can satisfy part 1 of coalition victory, in the same sense, a scrubland or bayou can count for 2 of 5 of the land types for the victory. Also to magic is cardboard crack, this is already part 7, maybe we should start a part 8 though...
Dattank Member	posted August 06, 2001 02:33 PM Meddling mage... what's the deal with him? Can someone explain him? I mean does his(meddling mage) ability last for the rest of the game? What happens when you animate dead a named card? What happens to named cards already in play? [Edited 2 times, lastly by Dattank on August 06, 2001]
Renaud Member	posted August 06, 2001 03:03 PM No, I was just quoting the D'Angelo card ruling. His "DCI" judges list told him you needed 5 separate permanents. Anyway, I agree with you. He must be wrong, or they must have misunderstood. Still confused about the discrepancy between Meddling Mage and Empress Galina. Why does one end when it leaves play and the other not? Datatank: D'Angelo's ruling on Meddling Mage says its effect ends when it leaves play. (Otherwise you could lock out a whole deck by bouncing it 8 or 9 times). "Named card can't be played" means it can't be put on the stack. So it's fine to Animate Dead the named card, or search for it using an activated ability or whatever.
Brom Member	posted August 06, 2001 03:31 PM quote: D'Angelo's ruling Who or what is D'Angelo?? [Edited 1 times, lastly by Brom on August 06, 2001]
Renaud Member	posted August 06, 2001 04:06 PM http://www.crystalkeep.com/magic/rules/summaries.html Check out this website. You can browse for the card ruling you want by name, color, or expansion. "The official rulings summaries are compiled by Crystal Keep's own Stephen D'Angelo. They are published monthly (since January 1994!) and comprise the most up-to-date and most comprehensive collection of Magic rules and rulings available. " [Quoted from the Crystal Keep website].
trax72 Member	posted August 07, 2001 01:13 AM Meddling Mage and Empress Galina have 2 entirely different abilities. Meddling Mage's ability is a static ability while Empress Galina's ability is an activated ability with no duration which means it will last for the rest of the game, even if Galina leaves play. Unlike Meddling Mage: A.3.1 - Static abilities have no cost to activate and are always in effect while the permanent is in play. [CompRules 99/04/23] Hope this clears it up.

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