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rpitcher
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posted June 19, 2001 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rpitcher     
Yes Dark Ritual is now an instant, so you can counter it like most other instants.

As someone said above, Dark Ritual was changed to an instant sometime ago (I think it was with 6th edition rules).

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[TIN]Kamikaze
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posted June 20, 2001 12:52 AM           
Small question:

Does/can Mana Short be used to counter a spell, and why or why not?

Also, if someone Pernacious Deeds for 2. Would a Spectral Lynx be affected (having pro: Green)?

Thanks

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posted June 20, 2001 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gombies   Click Here to Email Gombies     
quote:
Originally posted by [TIN]Kamikaze:
Small question:

Does/can Mana Short be used to counter a spell, and why or why not?

Also, if someone Pernacious Deeds for 2. Would a Spectral Lynx be affected (having pro: Green)?

Thanks


No, i don't think mana short could be used to counter a spell or it would be too good. I think it is like an orim's chant in a way. And yes to the second question. It would be affected but you could always pay 1 Black mana to regenerate it


[TIN]Kamikaze
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posted June 20, 2001 01:28 AM           
Gotcha, thanks. Yeah, I really didn't really think it could counter a spell, since then it would seem to be missing an extra digit in it's scrye price but I just needed a second opinion. And I was also confoozed w/ non targetable pro stuff.

Anyways, thnks Goo

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posted June 20, 2001 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drengar   Click Here to Email Drengar     
Wel okay it heard it changed back from a high lvl judge so i believed him


Master
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posted June 20, 2001 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Master   Click Here to Email Master     
can you pump a morphling higher than a 0/6?

say 0/7 or 0/8? thanks..

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posted June 20, 2001 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drengar   Click Here to Email Drengar     
yes you can, you can pump him as high as you want

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posted June 20, 2001 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrLevi28   Click Here to Email MrLevi28     
say you have a cho manna out with a priah on it and then you have a crubmling sncatuary in play what happenes? do you still have to take cards off the top of your deck for damage or does it go to cho manna and the priah


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posted June 20, 2001 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa   Click Here to Email caquaa     
MrLevi28:
T.10.10 - If two or more replacement or prevention effects attempt to modify the same event in contradictory ways, the player who is being affected, or who controls the affected permanent, or who owns the card which is not in play chooses the order to apply them. [CompRules 99/04/23] + [D'Angelo 99/05/01] For example, if one effect says "If a card would be put into a graveyard, instead remove it from the game" and another effect says "If this card would be put into a graveyard, instead shuffle it into its owner's library", then the controller of the card that was going to the graveyard would decide which to apply first.
You would get to chose which happens


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posted June 20, 2001 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gombies   Click Here to Email Gombies     
Hi!

me and my friend was playing a game. We both had 8 life but he got a tons of creatures out and i was about to lose the game. I earthquaked for 8 causing both of us to die but he said that i die first because i am the active player or something? Is he right or is he just phycho?

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Gombies:
G.20.1 - If both players lose the game at the same time or during the resolution of a single part/event of a spell or ability, the game ends in a draw. It does not matter if one player has a more negative life total. [CompRules 99/04/23]

G.20.4 - A player loses if their life total is zero or less. This is a state-based effect. See Rule G.19.3. [CompRules 99/04/23]

The game becomes a draw since you both have zero life when state based effects check after the earthquake.


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posted June 20, 2001 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Legolas86   Click Here to Email Legolas86     
Hello!

I have two questions:
If I sacrifice regenerating creature, can I regenerate it?
If I cast Void and choose 0 (zero), would this kill tokens?

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posted June 20, 2001 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gombies   Click Here to Email Gombies     
quote:
Originally posted by Legolas86:
Hello!

I have two questions:
If I sacrifice regenerating creature, can I regenerate it?
If I cast Void and choose 0 (zero), would this kill tokens?

Legolas




No, you could not sac a creature then regenerate it and yes to the second question. If you void for 0, It will destroy all the tokens


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posted June 21, 2001 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quad Boy   Click Here to Email Quad Boy     
ok im going to sound stupid and like a newbie, but i havent played in over 3 years, and some people play where your life goes below 0, and others play where it cant go below 0, i would love to know the answer to this so my ali from cairo/channel/fireball combo will be more valuable against my bro(stupid zuran orb) hehe cuz we play where u cant go below 0 but i think the real rule is that you can, thanks for any help


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posted June 22, 2001 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa   Click Here to Email caquaa     
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Originally posted by Quad Boy:
ok im going to sound stupid and like a newbie, but i havent played in over 3 years, and some people play where your life goes below 0, and others play where it cant go below 0, i would love to know the answer to this so my ali from cairo/channel/fireball combo will be more valuable against my bro(stupid zuran orb) hehe cuz we play where u cant go below 0 but i think the real rule is that you can, thanks for any help

Well the first this that we have to make sure that is not happening is that the guy with the ali is not using channel for more than the life he has. If he has 20 life, an ali, and channels for 20 he loses life and dies. Ali does not prevent the loss of life.

If he fireballs your bro, then your bro dies as soon as he hits zero life. He must use the orb before the fireball resolves to stay alive. If you reach zero life, you die imediatly.

Hope I helped a bit

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Yawgmoth37
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posted June 22, 2001 05:34 AM           
Though you appear to hate me already, coolio, answer this please (e-mail me):

With the Whirlpool cards (Drake, Rider, Warrior), when you do the card changing, do you shuffle the deck fully when you put you hand in, or just place the cards randomly in the deck. The reason I'm asking this is obviously whether I can use Fact of Fiction to get better cards when i change my hand.

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posted June 22, 2001 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa   Click Here to Email caquaa     
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Originally posted by Yawgmoth37:
Though you appear to hate me already, coolio, answer this please (e-mail me):

With the Whirlpool cards (Drake, Rider, Warrior), when you do the card changing, do you shuffle the deck fully when you put you hand in, or just place the cards randomly in the deck. The reason I'm asking this is obviously whether I can use Fact of Fiction to get better cards when i change my hand.


Ugh, you shuffle the cards in your hand into your deck, then draw equal cards.

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posted June 22, 2001 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drengar   Click Here to Email Drengar     
Dont try to ask coolio
he's not awnsering this topic

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posted June 22, 2001 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ranma4703   Click Here to Email Ranma4703     
My friend says he can play a capsize with buyback in responce to my ravounous rats coming into play, and that he would not have to discard it since he played, even though it goes back into his hand. It is his only card in hand, and he is targeting one of my permanants. Who is right?

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posted June 23, 2001 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa   Click Here to Email caquaa     
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Originally posted by Ranma4703:
My friend says he can play a capsize with buyback in responce to my ravounous rats coming into play, and that he would not have to discard it since he played, even though it goes back into his hand. It is his only card in hand, and he is targeting one of my permanants. Who is right?

THe capsize w/ buyback would resolve returning the permanent andthe capsize to the hands. Then the rat ability would resolve making him discard a card (the capsize if it was the only card in his hand).

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posted June 25, 2001 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selvaxri   Click Here to Email Selvaxri     
just making sure:
1> I have Caltrops and Death Pits of Rath in play. He declares his attack. Do his creatures die even before dealing combat damage (via Clatrops/Death Pits)?

2> I have dual Nature in play, and cast Horned Kavu. Do i have to return 2 red/green creatures back to my hand or just one?
thanx!
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posted June 25, 2001 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlindFaithZero   Click Here to Email BlindFaithZero     
someone told me that you could draw more than 1 card a turn with sylvan library and abundance in play without losing life and just using those 2 cards. how can this be done?

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posted June 25, 2001 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolio   Click Here to Email coolio     
appearantly.. I do still browse this topic every once in a while..

thanks for keeping watch while I've been busy with the h/w and t/a forums.. along with the 3 others I moderate

personally.. I cant take credit for the last 3 posts..

anyhows.. creatures will die via the caltrops and death pits of rath "combo"

it gets all comes into play abilities.. so gating will happen with the horned kavu token.. much like how deranged hermit token would creature 4 squirrel tokens and had echo.

the sylvan and adbundance trick is nice abuse of the replacement effect.. see.. sylvan triggers if you draw the extra cards.. however.. adbundance replaces the "draw" and lets u name land or non-land and "puts it into hand"

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posted June 25, 2001 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Inzane   Click Here to Email Inzane     
Say I have a flagbearer in play and I play something, he uses spite from spite/malice...would he have to use malice or do split cards count as two?

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quote:
Originally posted by Inzane:
Say I have a flagbearer in play and I play something, he uses spite from spite/malice...would he have to use malice or do split cards count as two?

If he uses the malice half then it must kill the flagbearer, if he uses spite then he doesn't have to target it. Split cards are treated as a single card while on the stack and ignore the other half so when he plays spite the flagbearer never even sees malice.

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