posted August 22, 2001 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Selvaxri:
i have in play a Skittering Horror and Opal Champion. when the champion is activated, does the horror die? lmk
-Selvaxri

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No. The Champion being activated is not the same as playing a creature spell, and since the wording on the Horror is "When you play a creature spell, sacrifice Skittering Horror", the Horror will survive and you'll have yourself a bright shiny new Champion in play.

posted August 22, 2001 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Gombies:
Let's say my opponent is at 1 life, i have a captain's maneuver. could i tap 3 and redirect the next 1 damage next to me and tap my city of brass and redirect it to kill him? will going into my attack phase and mana burning myself have the same result?

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1) Yes, you can do that. But you must tap the CoB before you announce the spell.
*Note that it will not work with painlands, for their damage does not go to stack.

2) Mana burn is a loss of life, not damage, so it would not work.

posted August 23, 2001 07:00 AM            

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Originally posted by trax72:
Slight correction here, you DON'T have to tap the CoB beforehand. So you can cast the Captain's Maneuver in advance and then tap the CoB to have it redirected. So this way, it will also work for painlands.

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But you cannot tap a land for mana during resolution of a spell, right? You can play mana abilities only when you have a priority or something asks for mana payment. Thus, if you add Captain's Maneuver to the stack and then tap your CoB, the triggered ability that would deal 1 damage to you would go on top of the stack and resolve before Maneuver. CM resolves - no damage to redirect.

And if you tap your CoB during the announcement of the CM, the "damage ability" would trigger and go to the stack the next time a player receives priority - and that would mean on top of CM.

Tell me what you think.Maybe I have misunderstood something.

posted August 23, 2001 08:19 AM         

Play Captain's Maneuver with the appropriate targets so the next 1 damage to himself will go to the opponent. Then let this resolve, putting up the redirection shield from the Maneuver. And then, use the CoB for mana (or a painland) and let the damage be redirected. I didn't think he meant to play everything in response, you could just let the Maneuver resolve first and then tap the CoB.

posted August 23, 2001 11:26 AM            

-K

posted August 23, 2001 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Skizkit:
Heh, there is no negative. As soon as he hits 0 toughness, he dies. The highest you can get him up to is a 5/1, then you could put damage on the stack and pump to a 5/6 assuming you have the mana.

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Okay, um, that's wrong, and stuff.

Yes, you can only get Morphling up to a 5/1 assuming that he's not enchanted or something. HOWEVER, you can pump him down all you want (there's no way to have a 5/6 Morphling, by the way). You can go into negative power, although all damage dealt by that kind of power is considered 0. So you can pump Morphling up to a 5/1, put damage on the stack, and pump up toughness all you want.

posted August 23, 2001 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Klarc:
Put Nether's ability on the stack, then Squee... Squee resolves first, coming back to your hand, then Nether doesn't see anyone with him, therefore coming back to the living. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

-K

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And I'm pretty sure that Nether Spirit's ability doesn't go on the stack at all if another creature is in the graveyard at the beginning of your upkeep.

posted August 23, 2001 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by trax72:
[b]Juss: What Gombies is trying to do could be achieved like this (and this is what I assumed he meant):

Play Captain's Maneuver with the appropriate targets so the next 1 damage to himself will go to the opponent. Then let this resolve, putting up the redirection shield from the Maneuver. And then, use the CoB for mana (or a painland) and let the damage be redirected. I didn't think he meant to play everything in response, you could just let the Maneuver resolve first and then tap the CoB.

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posted August 23, 2001 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by iakae:
Okay, um, that's wrong, and stuff.

Yes, you can only get Morphling up to a 5/1 assuming that he's not enchanted or something. HOWEVER, you can pump him down all you want (there's no way to have a 5/6 Morphling, by the way). You can go into negative power, although all damage dealt by that kind of power is considered 0. So you can pump Morphling up to a 5/1, put damage on the stack, and pump up toughness all you want.

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I heard that negative power cannot exist at all. It is basically considered zero in all aspects. If what you say is true, then Morphling isn't as good as I thought it was; I previously assumed that since there was no such thing as negative power, you could make your morphling 0/21, and then make him 20/1 to kill the opponent. I hope I am wrong.

Anyway, now for the question that has stumped WotC customer service, 3 different Lv. 3 judges, and numerous other sources:

I have a creature with Animate Dead on it. My opponent plays a Flickering Ward on my creature, naming black as the color. This results in the Animate Dead being removed, and the creature immediately follows. My question is, does my opponent have time to bounce the Ward back to his hand? (BTW, so far WotC said no, a Lv. 3 judge said yes, and 4 others said "no idea".)

posted August 23, 2001 09:22 PM            

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[b]StriderHry:

Magic Monger: Yep that works. The Monger and Elf both satisfy the trigger condition, and then when it resolves it sees there's both a white and a green permanent so it will have the full effect.[/B]

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Um, no you can't.

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303.1. As the upkeep step begins, any abilities that trigger at the beginning of that upkeep step or
that turn's untap step go on the stack. (Upkeep-triggered abilities use the phrase "At the
beginning of your upkeep" or a similar wording; see rule 404, "Triggered Abilities.") Once all
such abilities have gone onto the stack, the active player gets priority. Then players may play
spells and abilities.

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Since it only check on trigger, not resolution, you won't get the 3 life loss but the 1 life loss cause that is what goes onto the stack, the one life loss.

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posted August 24, 2001 02:24 AM         

MordainThade: Anything with negative power or toughness is treated as though that power or toughness is 0. Quote from the rulebook:

If a creature's power or toughness, a mana cost, a player's life total, an amount of damage, or an amount of life loss would be less than zero, it's treated as zero for all purposes except adding to or subtracting from that total.

As for your question:

I'm going with that one Level 3 judge, yes you can bounce the Ward back to your hand. The Ward comes into play with the chosen color black. Animate Dead then goes to the graveyard as a Statebased Effect, triggering its destruction ability which goes on the stack. Then it's possible to respond to this by returning the Ward to your hand. What's so hard about this question??

And I think we all know by now you shouldn't ask WotC, their rules knowledge sucks bigtime.

prichie: Yes, he can counter your spell, Dromar's Charm is modal and he will only be forced to target your Standard Bearer if he uses the -2/-2 mode.

Magic1264: Uhm, yes you can, you're wrong I'm afraid. Straight from the Apocalypse FAQ:

If you control a permanent of *one* of the enchantment's enemy colors when the ability triggers, and then you change the color of another permanent you control to the other enemy color before the ability resolves, you'll get the bigger effect.

posted August 24, 2001 08:04 AM            

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Originally posted by trax72:
[b]Juss: What Gombies is trying to do could be achieved like this (and this is what I assumed he meant):

Play Captain's Maneuver with the appropriate targets so the next 1 damage to himself will go to the opponent. Then let this resolve, putting up the redirection shield from the Maneuver. And then, use the CoB for mana (or a painland) and let the damage be redirected. I didn't think he meant to play everything in response, you could just let the Maneuver resolve first and then tap the CoB.
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OF COURSE
That's what happens if you think too much... Called professional cretinism here.

Looks like I'll never be a good player when I can't catch things like this

I'll pay more attention next time.

posted August 24, 2001 09:22 AM            

player A : i play lobotomy , let me look through your hand
player B : wait i'll missdirect it to you (the lobotomy)

so i recently read the judge mailing list and saw that problem

and no one reply so could u tell me is this legal:
player A : ok i choose no card
i think player A must choose a card ( if he have a nonland card)
and player B deserved to call a judge to witness if player A have any non land card

thanks for the answer ( pl email me)

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posted August 24, 2001 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Gnimmelf:
Okay, here's one. Is Crown of the Ages affected by a Flagbearer's ability? In other words, can I move an enchantment to whichever creature I want if my opponent controls a flagbearer, or does the enchantment have to go on the flagbearer?

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Therefore, since the ability doesn't target the bearer, it doesn't need to check for a legal target creature, therefore it can go to anything, (i.e. you can rancor a blastoderm with this)