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Topic: Need a Ruling?.. Come on in... part 8, the quest for mo answers
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gzeiger
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posted October 12, 2001 01:04 AM
 
You lose the game if you are required to draw a card and can't.Scroll Rack's ability does not require you to draw cards. Instead you set aside cards from your hand, then set aside cards from your library, then those cards switch places. If there are not enough cards in your library, then the two piles will simply have different numbers of cards in them. In this case you will be putting some number of cards onto your library and zero cards into your hand. The MOTL rulings are correct - if you have a Scroll Rack, a mana and a card in your hand you can't be decked.
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MyKoL
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posted October 12, 2001 06:24 AM
I have a Question:Q: I have a Mirari
and 15 mana over
I cast a Life Burst can I stack the Lifebust just once or 4 times?
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trax72
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posted October 12, 2001 07:54 AM
Just once, because Mirari has a triggered ability that will only trigger once when you play an instant or sorcery. When it resolves, you can pay 3 to make a copy.
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yeom
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posted October 12, 2001 10:47 AM
Would someone please tell me if the following is a shuffle or a cut"I finish shuffling my deck for the pre-match, and present it to my opponent. My opponent takes the bottom card of my library, and puts it on top of my deck, then takes the new bottom card, and puts it on top of my deck, repeating until he's done it 7 times." Would this count as a shuffle, allowing me to cut the deck one last time, or do I have to play with the cards he put on top of my library
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KIP_NZ
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posted October 12, 2001 03:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by yeom:
Would someone please tell me if the following is a shuffle or a cut"I finish shuffling my deck for the pre-match, and present it to my opponent. My opponent takes the bottom card of my library, and puts it on top of my deck, then takes the new bottom card, and puts it on top of my deck, repeating until he's done it 7 times." Would this count as a shuffle, allowing me to cut the deck one last time, or do I have to play with the cards he put on top of my library
it does not matter, you can cut your deck once at anytime after your opponent has shuffled or cut.
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Nessjr
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posted October 12, 2001 03:53 PM
I have a Mindslicer in play and i play Diabolic Intent sacing the Mindslicer.
Hers my question would my opponent be able to counter the Intent or would they have to discard their hand before they have a chance to counter it.
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Tom
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posted October 12, 2001 09:37 PM
Can I activate a devoted caretaker giving a creature protection from sorceries and save a creature from a wrath of god?
Thanks
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eiriklarsen
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posted October 14, 2001 05:45 AM
I need some help with Mishra's Factory, and I can't find a rule that describes my problem.1)
If I turn Mishra's Factory into a creature, then play for example Hermetic Study on it, what happens when Mishra's become a land again? 2)
If the answer to the previous question is that Hermetic Study is still enchanting Mishra's, can I still deal damage with Mishra's while it is a land?
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eiriklarsen
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posted October 14, 2001 05:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Tom:
Can I activate a devoted caretaker giving a creature protection from sorceries and save a creature from a wrath of god?
Thanks
No you can't. The fine thing with WoG is that it's not targeting creatures. So not even protection from white creatures persist. __________________
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Inzane
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posted October 14, 2001 08:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by eiriklarsen:
I need some help with Mishra's Factory, and I can't find a rule that describes my problem.1)
If I turn Mishra's Factory into a creature, then play for example Hermetic Study on it, what happens when Mishra's become a land again? 2)
If the answer to the previous question is that Hermetic Study is still enchanting Mishra's, can I still deal damage with Mishra's while it is a land?
It's like this: 214.8e If a local enchantment is enchanting an illegal permanent or the permanent it was
attached to no longer exists, the enchantment card is put into its owner's graveyard. (This is
a state-based effect. See rule 420.) Hence, it is enchanting an illegal permanent (i.e. enchant creatures may ONLY enchant creatures themselves) so it will go to the graveyard.
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trax72
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posted October 14, 2001 02:08 PM
Nessjr: Saccing the Mindslicer for the Intent will trigger the Mindslicer's ability, and the opponent will be able to counter the Intent before this ability resolves and you are both forced to discard your hand.
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Ertai666
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posted October 14, 2001 03:34 PM
Q:i have 5 untapped mana and he casts lobotomy, the only thing i have in my hand is a Prophetic bolt, i casted that and chose nightscape familiar, is that a legal target for the earlier lobotomy__________________
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gzeiger
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posted October 14, 2001 07:12 PM
Lobotomy only has one target - you. When it resolves, then its caster chooses which card it gets. The Familiar in your hand will get Lobotomized. In this situation you should take a land instead of a spell card 
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Mageta22787
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posted October 14, 2001 08:49 PM
I am not sure if this question was asked because I don't have the time to look through every reply.Say if I cast Balance. I have a Zuran Orb out. Can I pass my priority, allow my opponent to respond by trying to counter it, if they don't counter it and then after Balance checks land, I respond to that ability of the card going off and sac all of my land to the Zuran Orb or would I have to sac the land once I play Balance, seeing that I have 1st priority. Would this ruling apply to desolation angel (more so to desolation angel having the "come into play" affect)?
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gzeiger
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posted October 14, 2001 09:25 PM
What you are describing was legal when coounterspells still had the Interrupt spell type. Sixth Edition rules say that if you yield priority and your opponent declines to take any action then Balance will resolve. You would have to sacrifice your lands before you know about the Counterspell.Desolation Angel is not the same at all - I'm not sure what you're asking. The Angel's kicker must be paid, or not, before countermagic is announced. If it resolves, then it's come-into-play ability *goes on the stack* because it is a triggered ability. You can sacrifice lands to Zuran Orb after the Angel has resolved, if that's what you meant. At that point it's too late to counter it.
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Selvaxri
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posted October 17, 2001 04:12 PM
my opponent has Psychic Battle in play, and i cast Blessed Wind. I win the 'battle' and then he casts Misdirection. What happens; depending on who wins the 'battle'?
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gzeiger
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posted October 17, 2001 09:57 PM
Whoever wins the "battle" will get to pick what Misdirection targets. Its caster (your opponent) still gets to make the choices it calls for on resolution. In this case there is only one legal target for Misdirection, so no matter who wins the Psychic Battle its target will be Blessed Wind. When Misdirection resolves your opponent presumably will choose to make the Wind target himself. There's no way for Psychic Battle to help you here.
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volrath_the_elf
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posted October 19, 2001 02:06 PM
Ok, here's my question. I think I know the answer, but I'd like to make sure. Let's say that I play Call of the Herd and put my Elephant token into play. Then a couple of turns later I flashback it and my opponent plays Memory Lapse. Where does the card go? __________________
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trax72
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posted October 19, 2001 02:26 PM
According to the Odyssey FAQ, a spell that has been played with Flashback will be removed from the game any time it would leave the stack. So when Memory Lapse tries to put it on the top of your library it's still removed from the game.
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Klarc
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posted October 19, 2001 02:30 PM
can any of the judges name me all 10 state based effects?-K __________________
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trax72
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posted October 22, 2001 06:38 AM
I'm not a judge but here goes... (no, I'm not writing 'em out)1. Life <= 0
2. Creature toughness <= 0
3. Creature with lethal dmg
4. Local enchantment
5. Legends
6. Tokens
7. Can't draw
8. Poison
9. Enchant World As for the 10th, it's not in the official rulebook AFAIK. But I did find something, which might be what you mean: 10. Sudden Death On http://www.magicadvisor.com/focuson/statebas.html I have no idea where this is from, I can't find any official source.
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Ertai666
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posted October 22, 2001 07:00 AM
im not a judge either but they ARE1) A player with zero or less life loses the game. 2) A creature with toughness of zero or less is put into its owner's graveyard and it cannot regenerate. 3) A creature with lethal damage (see Rule K.10.4) (which does not also have zero or less toughness) is destroyed. Regeneration can replace this event. [bethmo 99/07/27] 4)A local enchantment that enchants an illegal or non-existant permanent
is put into its owner's graveyard. 5) Duplicate legends are put into their owner's graveyard. See Rule K.17. 6) A token in a zone other than "in play" ceases to exist. 7) A player who was unable to draw a card due to their library being empty loses the game. 8) If more than one Enchant World is in play, all or all-but-one are put into their owner's graveyard. See Rule K.12.10. 9) A player with 10 or more poison counters loses the game. See Rule E.9.2. couldnt find 10
but i have a question: when you play spells that have x in their manacosts, do you first announce the x then pay it or vice versa
and would a familiar give an extra value for x example: Nightscape fam is in play and you play ghitu fire announcing 6 usually you would have to pay 6R but can you instead pay 5R due to the familiar __________________
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Tosh
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posted October 22, 2001 07:21 AM
you would always announce how much you are paying for x when u declare the spell and familiars do reduce the cost of x in ghitu fire.
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Boogers
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posted October 22, 2001 09:40 AM
One quick question:If you activate a Shifty Doppelganger's ability to shift another creature into play (let's say a Moti), if the Moti leaves play before your turn's end, what exactly happens to the Doppelganger? I know that for it to return to play you need to sacrifice the creature, but if you can't the card gives no consequence. Does the Shifty Doppelganger simply remain removed from the game?
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ServantOfGlaaki
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posted October 22, 2001 10:36 AM
Hi there, can someone answer the following:I have a Nefarious Lich, and a Confessor in play. I move into my discard phase with 8 cards in my hand, so I have to discard one. I do this, and use the confessor, gaining a life which the Lich turns into a card draw. I now have 8 cards in hand again. Do I have to discard again, or can I end my discard phase with 8 cards in hand? Thanks for any help - much appreciated __________________
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