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Topic: Need a Ruling?.. Come on in... part 8, the quest for mo answers
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Cayro
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posted September 09, 2001 05:56 PM
 
What happens if you Fork your opponent's Relentless Assautl??
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gzeiger
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posted September 09, 2001 11:06 PM
Don't do that  Both copies work to your opponent's advantage. Here is the most recent wording for that card:Text(7th): Untap all creatures that attacked this turn. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase followed by an additional main phase.
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morphling69
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posted September 09, 2001 11:23 PM
if i have a dual nature in play can i gain control of my opponents token creatures(via dual nature) from brand??? thx alot this will help in multiplayer
[Edited 1 times, lastly by morphling69 on September 10, 2001]
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trax72
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posted September 10, 2001 01:56 AM
Yes, you do.K.25.7 - Token creatures are "owned" by the player that controlled the spell or ability that put the token into play. [CompRules 1999/04/23]
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trax72
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posted September 17, 2001 03:20 AM
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Archreaper
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posted September 17, 2001 05:34 PM
Say my opponent attacks with a 3/3 morphling and I block with a morphling that has been pumped to 2/4. He pupms his morphling to a 4/2 and then as damage is on the stack, he de-pumps it to a 2/4 so it survives. Can he do that?__________________
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gzeiger
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posted September 17, 2001 07:47 PM
Yes, he can do that. Morphling's kinda neat that way. This is one of the biggest changes introduced in 6th edition - combat damage goes on the stack as though it were a spell, and may be responded to as such. The damage dealt depends on a creature's power when damage is assigned, while creature death depends on the toughness when damage resolves. So yes, Morphling can eat any non-first striking creature with tougness five or less and live to tell about it.
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StriderHry
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posted September 17, 2001 07:47 PM
If he puts the 4/2 Morphlings combat damage on the stack, then switches it b4 combat damage is dealt, yes.One of the 100000 reasons why Morphling is the best crit in mTG. __________________
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inca911
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posted September 19, 2001 06:45 AM
What would be the ruling if I played an all-black filler card in a deck? The card has an actual Magic card back, but the front is all-black. I know the ruling regarding the Textless Lightning Bolt but I was curious about this one.BTW, coolio, I haven't heard from your friend yet.... __________________
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Juss
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posted September 19, 2001 07:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inca911:
What would be the ruling if I played an all-black filler card in a deck? The card has an actual Magic card back, but the front is all-black. I know the ruling regarding the Textless Lightning Bolt but I was curious about this one.
What would you write in your decklist??? Juss
DCI level 1 judge
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inca911
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posted September 19, 2001 10:04 AM
Yes, I did wonder what one would put on a decklist. Maybe there is a loophole such that I can claim it is a Black Lotus.  Anyway, just curious if there were a ruling out there. My perception is that it cannot be identified and cannot therefore be played.Question #2: Suppose that I make up a deck with many miscut cards (half and half miscuts, quad cards, etc). Can I then write down either card on my decklist? What if I have two similar miscuts--half Bolt and half Stone Rain on each. Can I then decide which one is which as I play them or must I preidentify them? I'm considering putting together a bunch of horribly miscut cards to make a deck that would be registered and played at a high level tournament to get a little publicity. Kind of like the Dan Bock all land deck, but with a different twist. Who knows, it might even get the MOTL name in the title.... __________________
Wanted Summer Magic cards (finder's fee offered): armageddon clock, blessing, goblin king, helm of chatzuk, millstone, mishras war machine, reverse damage, volcanic island (and maybe others you know of or can find)! I also want any other ultra-rares(e.g. Splendid Genesis)
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maddmatr
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posted September 19, 2001 06:41 PM
If i use illusionary mask to bring out a phyrexian dreadnaught, when i decide to flip it over do i have to pay its come into play cost? or is this just a loophole? 
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Meat
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posted September 19, 2001 06:51 PM
What happens when Mirari "forks" a spell with the buyback cost paid? I know that Fork itself returns to your hand due to the buyback, but how is it possible with Mirari?Edit: Put flashback, meant buyback
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Meat on September 20, 2001]
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reinhart
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posted September 21, 2001 01:06 PM
let's say i have a Gemstone Mine with one counter on itcan i tap it to pay for Raze then sack it to Raze? Can i tap a Mountain to pay for Raze, sack the Gemstone Mine (with 1 counter), and in resp, gain one mana with Gemstone Mine? __________________
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puregoblinboy47
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posted September 22, 2001 06:02 PM
I have oneIn a group game, I cast desolation giant(kicked), A player sacs his minotaur illusionist in response. He claims that when the giant comes into play, the destroy all creatures goes on the stack, so he deals 3 damage to the giant cause its already in play, but the abilitie hasnt gone off yet. I say that the giant resolves all at once, when the giant comes in everything dies.You cannot respond to the abilities, just the giant. __________________
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puregoblinboy47
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posted September 22, 2001 08:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by reinhart:
let's say i have a Gemstone Mine with one counter on itcan i tap it to pay for Raze then sack it to Raze? Can i tap a Mountain to pay for Raze, sack the Gemstone Mine (with 1 counter), and in resp, gain one mana with Gemstone Mine?
I dont believe so. as sacing is part of the cost. and whenthere is nothing to sac, you cant play the spell __________________
if a frog had wings it wouldnt bump its arse when it hopped.- Red Foreman-That 70s ShowI want as many last caresses as is out there, ill trade for them i also want your leeches valmtg is my HERO, i do what she pleases
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KIP_NZ
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posted September 23, 2001 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by inca911:
Yes, I did wonder what one would put on a decklist. Maybe there is a loophole such that I can claim it is a Black Lotus. Anyway, just curious if there were a ruling out there. My perception is that it cannot be identified and cannot therefore be played.
Okay, I don't know if there is a ruling for that excat card, but I am going to say no.
Why? It has no chrateristics, no casting cost? No name? No Picture? so by that it is not identifiable as a legal card.
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Also by Inca
Question #2: Suppose that I make up a deck with many miscut cards (half and half miscuts, quad cards, etc). Can I then write down either card on my decklist? What if I have two similar miscuts--half Bolt and half Stone Rain on each. Can I then decide which one is which as I play them or must I preidentify them? I'm considering putting together a bunch of horribly miscut cards to make a deck that would be registered and played at a high level tournament to get a little publicity. Kind of like the Dan Bock all land deck, but with a different twist. Who knows, it might even get the MOTL name in the title....
This one I am sure on. Yes you can play a misscut deck at a Tournamant, BUT when you register the deck you have to write down the card name that appears on that card(there should be only 1 card name on it), because that is the first chrateristic that identifing a card goes on. So you don't get to play with a whole heap of Split cards sorry Inca.
Adrian
DCI Lvl 1 (Level 2 in a few weeks with luck)
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gzeiger
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posted September 24, 2001 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
I have oneIn a group game, I cast desolation giant(kicked), A player sacs his minotaur illusionist in response. He claims that when the giant comes into play, the destroy all creatures goes on the stack, so he deals 3 damage to the giant cause its already in play, but the ability hasnt gone off yet. I say that the giant resolves all at once, when the giant comes in everything dies.You cannot respond to the abilities, just the giant.
No, your friend is correct. An ability worded "when," "whenever," or "if" is a triggered ability that goes on the stack when its condition is met (in this case, when the Giant comes into play). He does get to sacrifice the Minotaur in response to the ability. However, it doesn't do him any good. Once the ability goes on the stack it will resolve unless countered. Removing your Giant does not prevent the rest of his creatures from being destroyed. __________________
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Renaud
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posted September 25, 2001 12:57 PM
If Phantom Whelp takes lethal damage during combat, does it go to the graveyard or to my hand at the end of the combat phase?Also, where can I find the Odyssey FAQ? Phantom Whelp (common)
1U
Creature - Hound
When Phantom Whelp attacks or blocks, return it to its owner’s hand at end of combat.
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KIP_NZ
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posted September 25, 2001 06:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Renaud:
If Phantom Whelp takes lethal damage during combat, does it go to the graveyard or to my hand at the end of the combat phase?Also, where can I find the Odyssey FAQ? Phantom Whelp (common)
1U
Creature - Hound
When Phantom Whelp attacks or blocks, return it to its owner’s hand at end of combat.
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Sorry, it is dead and it stay's in the graveyard.
The creature dies (apon state based effects getting checked) it goes to the graveyard.
The ablity to return it to your hand checks and see's if it still in play (which it is not) and does not return it to your hand. For the FAQ, http://www.wizards.com/dci/judge/main.asp?x=judge/Prerelease_FAQs but the Odyssey one is not posted there yet, if you want it e-mail me and i will send it to you. Cheers Adrian
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maddmatr
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posted September 25, 2001 07:05 PM
someone please answer my question up above.Matt
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KIP_NZ
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posted September 25, 2001 09:16 PM
Sorry Mattquote:
Originally posted by maddmatr:
If i use illusionary mask to bring out a phyrexian dreadnaught, when i decide to flip it over do i have to pay its come into play cost? or is this just a loophole?
Nope you do not have to pay it's cost. Does this Break Phyrexian Dreadnaught again? Yes Sorry I compleatly missed that when I started answering these. __________________
Adrian
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KIP_NZ
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posted September 25, 2001 10:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Meat:
What happens when Mirari "forks" a spell with the buyback cost paid? I know that Fork itself returns to your hand due to the buyback, but how is it possible with Mirari?Edit: Put flashback, meant buyback
I was looking for the exact rulling on this but I could not find it, but basicly Buyback returns the card (note card) to the casters hand.
The buyback replacment attempts to return the card (which never exsisted) to owners hand, the ablitiy checks for a card to replace and finds that the there is no card to replace, so the replacement effect does not resolve. End effect, the buyback card is back in the casters hand, Mirari is in play and both the spell and ablitiy have resolved. Cheers Adrian
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Magic Monger
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posted September 26, 2001 05:12 AM
I have a couple of questions.1 - When you sacrifice a creature, as part of playing a spell can you regenerate it? 2 - When a enchanted creature is dealt lethal damage, will it lose the enchantment to the graveyard before you regenerate it or will the enchantment stay on the creature after the creature is regenerated? LMK, thanks for the help. __________________
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eiriklarsen
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posted September 26, 2001 08:09 AM
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Can you target your own counterspell?2)
If a player misdirects your absorb to counter itself, will you get 3 life? Help me out plz. __________________
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