posted March 20, 2002 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Dave the Ultimate:
In response to Templer: When a creature comes into play with summoning sickness, they are not tapped right? And as long as a creature is not tapped it can play its abilities, right? I think one of those must be wrong if fireslinger cannot play it's ability when it has summoning sickness. So which one is wrong?

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The creature comes into play untapped unless otherwise stated w/ summoning sickness. The creature can always do anything when its tapped except for blocking attacking and other things requiring to tap.

posted March 20, 2002 04:37 PM            

Master Apothecary

Color: White
Type: Creature - Cleric
Cost: WWW
Sets: OD(R)
Text(OD): 2/2. ; Tap an untapped Cleric you control: Prevent
the next 2 damage that would be dealt to target creature or
player this turn.

That's why in a fireslinger fight, ceteris paribus, the slinger played first always wins.

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posted March 20, 2002 04:57 PM            

I have a couple little questions.

#1. If I have two Nether Spirits in my graveyard, will they come back into play during my upkeep?

#2. If my opponent plays Twilight's Call, he has a flamtongue kavu, hypnotic specter, and a phyrexian scuta in his graveyard and I have a flametongue kavu & lighning angel in mine. Who brings his creatures into play first and how does the damage from the ftk have to be dealt? What if it is his parallax wave that removes them all?

#3. I have a Morphling in play with one blue available, my opponent tries to terminate it, I use the untargetable ability, then he as a fast effect terminates it again. What happens?

#4. I have a Morphling in play as my only creature, my opponent casts chainer's edict can I use the ability to prevent me having to sac it?

I really appreciate these issues being resolved. My email is cricheyroxon@hotmail.com

Thanks,
Charles.

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posted March 20, 2002 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by crichey:
Hello,

I have a couple little questions.

#1. If I have two Nether Spirits in my graveyard, will they come back into play during my upkeep?

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No, they both are stuck in your graveyard.

Nether Spirit

Color: Black
Type: Creature - Spirit
Cost: 1BB
Sets: MM(R)
Text(MM): 2/2. ; At the beginning of your upkeep, if ~this~ is
the only creature card in your graveyard, you may return
~this~ to play.

quote:

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#2. If my opponent plays Twilight's Call, he has a flamtongue kavu, hypnotic specter, and a phyrexian scuta in his graveyard and I have a flametongue kavu & lighning angel in mine. Who brings his creatures into play first and how does the damage from the ftk have to be dealt? What if it is his parallax wave that removes them all?

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The creatures come into play at the same time, but because your opponent is the active player, he puts his come-into-play (cip) abilities on the stack first. Then you put yours on the stack. (note that if he played the Call on your turn, you would put your cip abilities on the stack first, then he would put his on.)

* All the creature cards come into play simultaneously.
[Invasion FAQ 2000/10/03]

If his Parallax Wave removed all the creatures and then the Wave died, the result would be the same. (active player puts his cip abilities on the stack first, then non-active.)

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#3. I have a Morphling in play with one blue available, my opponent tries to terminate it, I use the untargetable ability, then he as a fast effect terminates it again. What happens?

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Providing he didn't let the Morph's untargetability resolve first, then yeah, your Morph is dead, as his 2nd terminate resolves before your untargetability does. (note if you had more mana, you could make your Morph untargetable again to prevent the terminates).

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#4. I have a Morphling in play as my only creature, my opponent casts chainer's edict can I use the ability to prevent me having to sac it?

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Because Chainer's Edict targets a player and not the Morph itself, the Morph cannot stop the almighty Edict.

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posted March 20, 2002 05:24 PM         

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Originally posted by crichey:
Hello,

I have a couple little questions.

#1. If I have two Nether Spirits in my graveyard, will they come back into play during my upkeep?

#2. If my opponent plays Twilight's Call, he has a flamtongue kavu, hypnotic specter, and a phyrexian scuta in his graveyard and I have a flametongue kavu & lighning angel in mine. Who brings his creatures into play first and how does the damage from the ftk have to be dealt? What if it is his parallax wave that removes them all?

#3. I have a Morphling in play with one blue available, my opponent tries to terminate it, I use the untargetable ability, then he as a fast effect terminates it again. What happens?

#4. I have a Morphling in play as my only creature, my opponent casts chainer's edict can I use the ability to prevent me having to sac it?

I really appreciate these issues being resolved. My email is cricheyroxon@hotmail.com

Thanks,
Charles.

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1) No, the errata for Nether Spirit is:
"if ~this~ is the only creature card" so it does not refer to the name Nether Spirit, but the single card itself.

3)The Morphling will die. His abilities are activated abilities and go on the stack like any other ability. When he casts the first Terminate, you respond by tapping for his "No target" ability, but your opponent then responds by casting another Terminate. If you only have 1 island untapped and can't further the ability (repay the activated cost) your Morphling will die, because the second Terminate that he casted will resolve first from the stack if it's done in response. And since the Morphling will die from the second Terminate, his no target ability will never resolve.

4)No, Chainer's Edict says "Target player", which means that the Morphling is not a target for a spell. Thus, you must sacrifice it.

As for the second one, that's a toughy!

I have my own question:

I am playing a Sealed U/G deck with Mirage Block. I have a Tolarian Serpent out in play and it's my upkeep. I have 5 cards left in my library, and 1 is a Gaea's Blessing. The Gaea's Blessing is the 3rd card from the top of my library. With the Serpent's ability, will the Blessing hit the graveyard before the last 2 cards allowing me to reshuffle my graveyard into library, or do the top 7 cards enter a graveyard simultaneously? If simultaneously, I have another question.

• With the Serpent's ability, will I lose because I can't put any more cards into my graveyard? Or do I lose only when I can no longer draw a card?

Thanks!

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posted March 20, 2002 05:32 PM            

Tolarian Serpent

Color: Blue
Type: Creature - Serpent
Cost: 5UU
Sets: WL(R)
Text(WL+errata): 7/7. ; At the beginning of your upkeep, put
the top seven cards of your library into your graveyard.
[Oracle 1999/07/01]

* If less than seven cards in the library, move all that are
there. [DeLaney 1997/06/12]

Gaea's Blessing

Color: Green
Type: Sorcery
Cost: 1G
Sets: WL(U)
Text(WL+errata): Target player shuffles up to three target
cards from his or her graveyard into his or her library. ; Draw a
card. ; When ~this~ is put into your graveyard from your
library, shuffle your graveyard into your library. [Oracle
1999/07/01]

* If Gaea's Blessing is moved into the graveyard by an effect,
it is dealt with as a triggered ability. This means you wait for
the next appropriate time before shuffling your graveyard into
your library. For Millstone, it means you put both cards in at
once, so it does not matter whether the Gaea's Blessing was
the first or second card. [bethmo 1997/11/09]

This means that during your upkeep, the Serpent will spit all 7 cards into your graveyard. Then when you next get priority, the blessing's ability will go on the stack. Providing nothing else happens, it will then resolve, shuffling your graveyard into your deck.

You only lose when you have to draw and you can't. The Serpent itself can't deck you, but it can help.

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posted March 20, 2002 05:35 PM         

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posted March 21, 2002 04:45 PM            

The only potentially counter-intuitive case with Sacred Ground is damage dealt to an animated land. In this case, even if the damage is dealt by a spell, the land actually gets destroyed by the game rule about lethal damage, which is not controlled by any player.

posted March 21, 2002 05:06 PM            

He taps his last two mana to deal one damage to the Grinder, and in response, I cast Terminate on his Masticore.

posted March 21, 2002 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Redlimit:
I have an Organ Grinder in play, and my opponent has a Masticore.

He taps his last two mana to deal one damage to the Grinder, and in response, I cast Terminate on his Masticore.

What happens? Do both effects go off? Does one effect take place first?

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Yes the Terminate takes place first and destroy the Masticore, since it was last on the stack, but the Masticore effect will resolve after that, thus killing the Organ Grinder as well.
Hope this helps.

posted March 21, 2002 06:24 PM            

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posted March 21, 2002 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Imagenyuss:
okay, with decimate... if there is an artifact in play do I have to target it? and if there isn't an artifact at all in play does it just fizzle?

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Yes you MUST target the artifact if theres one in play, and also im not that sure but im pretty sure you can still play the spell without targeting a creature a land an artifact and what ever else it targets. Ask someone else on the second part.

posted March 21, 2002 06:46 PM            

However, if you have all four targets and cast it, and one of the targets becomes illegal (for example gets removed by another spell) Decimate will still resolve and destroy the other 3 targets.

posted March 22, 2002 06:15 PM            

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posted March 22, 2002 08:00 PM            

The total converted mana cost would be 13.

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posted March 22, 2002 08:03 PM            

Can you untap a Time Vault with a Voltaic Key without skipping a turn? I have an artifact deck and have not been using my Time Vault!

posted March 22, 2002 08:06 PM            

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posted March 22, 2002 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by coreycorey2000:
Okay I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this but it seems so good that I'm having a hard time believing it

Can you untap a Time Vault with a Voltaic Key without skipping a turn? I have an artifact deck and have not been using my Time Vault!

thanks

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No. The updated ruling says "skip a turn, put a counter on it, untap...tap and remove counter to take extra turn".

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posted March 22, 2002 11:37 PM         

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Originally posted by Raatcharch:
Can you block with a Fleeting Image, put damage on the stack and return it to your hand before it takes damage, but still deals 2 damage to the attacker?

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Yes you can. Just make sure you word it correctly during play, by saying you are returning the creature before damage resolves. So make sure damage is stacked first.

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posted March 23, 2002 10:35 AM         

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