posted April 12, 2002 05:12 AM         

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posted April 12, 2002 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Chumleyhack:
A couple of days ago there was a response to a question indicating that a tapped blocking creature deals damage. I have played by a different rule for years. Have I always played incorrectly or has the rule changed?

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Tapped blockers/attackers that have already been declared still do stuff. Here's the relevant rule.

306.2. ...Tapping or untapping a creature
that's already been declared as an attacker or blocker doesn't remove it from combat and
doesn't prevent its combat damage.

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posted April 12, 2002 01:46 PM         

Say, I have a morphling in play, and someone declares an attack with a 5/5 first strike creature.

I declare a blocker (morphling).

then I make the morphling 5/1.
I can make it 0/6 from preventing it from kicking the bucket, and still deal the 5 damage, can't I?

posted April 14, 2002 06:34 PM            

I have a Avatar of Hope with Inviobility on it. My opponent has a Verdant Force and 8 Saproling Tokens in play. He then casts Overrun and swings with all. Does any (in particular the V. Force) damage go through from swinging since they're pumped up and trample?

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posted April 14, 2002 06:42 PM            

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posted April 14, 2002 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Draigun:
when something is remove from the game does it have to touch the graveyard

example
if i played faceless butcher on a lighting angel with squee embrace on it would the angel go back to the opponets hand?? or does it get remove??

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No it does not, it goes directly from the In play area to the Removed from the Game area, and on returning it goes directly back into play.

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posted April 14, 2002 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Arch-Zealot:
Adding up all the Saprolings' and Verdant Force's powers it equals 43. So if you blocked with the Avatar, the Avatar would survive but 34 damage would go through to you.

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posted April 14, 2002 10:47 PM            

For general reference, trample damage is assigned on a creature-by-creature basis, focusing on only the blocker's toughness, not on any protections/damage negating abilities.

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posted April 14, 2002 10:55 PM            

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Prevent all damage that would be dealt to enchanted creature.

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Overrun gives everybody trample, and Avatar of Hope blocks them all. The attacking player is required to assign only 9 points of damage, total, to the Avatar, and those points may be assigned from any of the attacking creature(s). Any damage after 9 may be assigned either to the blocker or to the defending player, but assigning more than 9 damage to the blocker makes you a Bad Player as per rule 509.2d (look it up ).

The rules on trample are (edited for relevance)

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502.9b The controller of an attacking creature with trample first assigns damage to the creature(s) blocking it. If all those blocking creatures are assigned lethal damage, any remaining damage is assigned as its controller chooses among the blocking creatures and the defending player. When checking for assigned lethal damage, take into account damage already on the creature and damage from other creatures that is to be assigned at the same time (see rule 502.9f). The controller need not assign lethal damage to all blocking creatures but in that case can't assign any damage to the defending player.

502.9e Assigning damage from a creature with trample considers only the actual toughness of a blocking creature, not any abilities or effects that might change the final amount of damage dealt.

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Note that trample damage is NOT assigned on a creature-by creature basis. The end result is that 31 points of trample damage may be assigned to the player.

posted April 15, 2002 04:40 AM         

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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Actually, all the 4/4 tokens would do their damage to the Avatar

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posted April 15, 2002 06:13 AM            

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posted April 15, 2002 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by gzeiger:
The attacking player is required to assign only 9 points of damage, total, to the Avatar, and those points may be assigned from any of the attacking creature(s). Any damage after 9 may be assigned either to the blocker or to the defending player, but assigning more than 9 damage to the blocker makes you a Bad Player as per rule 509.2d (look it up ).

The rules on trample are (edited for relevance) Note that trample damage is NOT assigned on a creature-by creature basis. The end result is that 31 points of trample damage may be assigned to the player.

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Really? Where'd you get that? I looked through Crystalkeep's trample rules and didn't find anything like that.

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posted April 15, 2002 11:31 AM         

A.30.3 - If all the creatures blocking a Trample attacker receive lethal damage (or more), any remaining damage can be assigned to the defending player. [CompRules 2001/07/23 - 502.9b]

posted April 15, 2002 11:13 PM            

Opponent has: Shambling Swarm, Nantuko Shade, Mortivore.

I have: Shambling Swarm.

Opponent attacks with all 3 creatures, I block his Swarm with mine. I think both die at the same time and that all 6 (3 from each Swarm) counters has to be distributed between his Shade and Mortivore. Am I right? He mentioned something about a graveyard order (which would have allowed him to distribute his 3 counters to my Swarm).

posted April 16, 2002 12:47 AM            

Combat damage resolves as a single event, and both Swarms die. Then two triggered abilities are put on the stack demanding targets, which must be creatures in play. All six counters must be distributed among surviving creatures.

However, note that adding the counters is neither simultaneous nor instantaneous. Triggered abilities controlled by the active player (that's him) go on the stack first - he has to tell you which creature(s) receive counters and how many. Then you get to distribute your counters' targets. Finally, if nobody wants to do anything in response to the abilities (like pump the Shade), they will resolve.

posted April 16, 2002 08:41 AM            

Shower of coals: can I choose the same target 3 times?

Flashback cost: affected by things that reduce/increase casting cost? (If I have an emerald medallion out does my CotH flashback for less.)

Thanks in advance.

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