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Avatar of Might Member	posted March 31, 2002 03:42 PM Harbingerofthevoid If a creature is destroyed it goes straight to it's owner's graveyard. It makes no pit stop at it's controllers graveyard(if different from owner). __________________ -Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive. -We had creative differences: I was creative and he was different -If you believe everything you read, better not read. dna@sfsu.edu [Edited 1 times, lastly by Avatar of Might on March 31, 2002]
recon Member	posted April 01, 2002 03:42 AM My opponent plays a stroke of genius, i respond with an abeyance, can he respond to my abeyance with cards he draws from the stroke? __________________ Stone Cold Steve Austin on Motl WWF "I asked myself was i content with the world that i once cherished did it bring me to this darkened place to contemplate my perfect future i will not stand nor utter words against this tide of hate losing sight of what and who i was again" -VNV Nation
harbingerofthevoid Member	posted April 01, 2002 05:05 AM [b]AoM[/] Thank you. I was animating thier creatures and I had a Dingus Staff in play. They would kill the critter, and were saying I took 2 damage from the staff. I'm not even going to bring up them saying I could not counter a spell after Ertai's Meddling resolved.
Lord Atog Member	posted April 01, 2002 10:13 AM When using Spinning Darkness, do the three black cards being removed have to be consecutive and on the top of your graveyard? Please PM or e-mail me the answer. Thanks. __________________ The bane of all artificers, the legendary atogs devoured intricate tools to further their own twisted growth.
hooligan495 Member	posted April 01, 2002 10:46 AM quote: Originally posted by recon: My opponent plays a stroke of genius, i respond with an abeyance, can he respond to my abeyance with cards he draws from the stroke? If your opponent casts Stroke, it goes on the stack. You said you respond with abeyance, this goes on the stack before stroke resolves. priority passes, and the stack starts unwinding. Abeyance resolves, no more spells can be cast by target. STroke resolves and cards are drawn. your opponent cannot use those cards (that are instants or sorceries) til end of turn.
gzeiger Member	posted April 01, 2002 11:17 AM harbinger, I can understand not wanting to deal with it, but you can of course counter a spell that comes back from Ertai's Meddling. Lord Atog - The cards removed by Spinning Darkness are not required to be either consecutive or the top three cards of the graveyard. They just have to be the three black cards highest up in your graveyard. Da-odd-Templar - That ruling is consistent with my explanation, it just doesn't cover situations with multiple copies of those enchantments. With one Opal and one Humility in play Opalescence always gets applied first, no matter what order they came into play, because the application of Humility's effect is dependent on (see the rule I posted) the application of Opalescence's effect. With multiple copies of Opalescence in play that simple resolution isn't so clear-cut. __________________ DCI certified Level 1 judge gzeiger@hotmail.com
creepyalex Member	posted April 01, 2002 06:45 PM can you discard multiple cards to putrid imp in one turn? the card reads :discard a card from your hand: putrid imp gains flying until end of turn. thanks for your help - alex
Tha Gunslinga Moderator	posted April 01, 2002 08:11 PM quote: Originally posted by creepyalex: can you discard multiple cards to putrid imp in one turn? the card reads :discard a card from your hand: putrid imp gains flying until end of turn. thanks for your help - alex Yes, you can pitch as many cards to the Imp as you want. However, since flying is not cumulative, the Imp won't have any type of "super flying" or anything like that. __________________ Benthic Behemoth: Much like Morphling, this guy gives you a way to end the game quickly, even if you have to discard your hand, sacrifice all your lands, pay half your life rounded up, and donate three pints of blood during your upkeep. --Rizzo's "review" of 7th Edition GAB Captain Tha Gunslinga
Mageta_Nemata Member	posted April 01, 2002 08:15 PM How many time do you have to pay echo?
HanSolo6385 Member	posted April 01, 2002 09:12 PM quote: Originally posted by Mageta_Nemata: How many time do you have to pay echo? Only once during your next turn's upkeep. __________________ Snow King, Ruler of all Penguins! AIM Handle:SURFNSKI4REAL King Woopywoopy of the Penguin Clan The more you know, the more you know you don't know. - Socrates Sign your toploaders!! Orders from the Overlord of Squirrels himself!
crichey Member	posted April 02, 2002 01:23 AM Two quick questions: 1. I attack with my Hyppie & Crosis. My opponent takes all damage. I activate Crosis ability saying black. Which do we do first, the Random card (Hyppie) or the Black Cards (Crosis)? 2. My opponent has a Fires of Yavimaya in play, I cast dismantling blow on it with the kicker paid, he then sacs it to give my creature +2/+2, do I get to draw the two cards? Thanks in advance! Charles.
Kcnarf Member	posted April 02, 2002 03:05 AM quote: Originally posted by crichey: Two quick questions: [b]1. I attack with my Hyppie & Crosis. My opponent takes all damage. I activate Crosis ability saying black. Which do we do first, the Random card (Hyppie) or the Black Cards (Crosis)? 2. My opponent has a Fires of Yavimaya in play, I cast dismantling blow on it with the kicker paid, he then sacs it to give my creature +2/+2, do I get to draw the two cards? Thanks in advance! Charles. [/B] 1 you choose which of the abilities goes first on the stack. 2 no you don't draw the cards, your spell is countered for lack of target.
daddyj Member	posted April 04, 2002 01:08 PM Here's one that I was curious about: Does Wild Mongrel remain green if you discard a card to his ability to pump him up but don't announce a new color. For example, my opponent attacks with the mongrel and with one card in hand, I declare no blockers then my opponent discards a land and says I'll make him a 3/3 but doesn't announce a color, can I respond with Hibernate and return him to my opponent's hand? __________________ You should read my article about how to avoid getting ripped off! http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000266.html Never trust anyone, not even yourself. -Cobra Commander
-Vhati-il-dal- Member	posted April 04, 2002 01:16 PM It is assumed that the player did not change the colour.
WizardofBlizzards Member	posted April 04, 2002 03:26 PM Does a tangled chimeric idol untap during its controller's next uptap step.
tragicmagic Member	posted April 04, 2002 03:47 PM I have two questions. Can a player pay 4 life with Vampiric Tutor to go search for 2 cards? And lets say my opponent has an all land deck, and he playsForbidden Watchtower. Can I pay the cost to make it a 1/5? Then Diabolic Edict him, so he has to sacrifice it?
Tha Gunslinga Moderator	posted April 04, 2002 04:01 PM quote: Originally posted by tragicmagic: I have two questions. Can a player pay 4 life with Vampiric Tutor to go search for 2 cards? And lets say my opponent has an all land deck, and he playsForbidden Watchtower. Can I pay the cost to make it a 1/5? Then Diabolic Edict him, so he has to sacrifice it? Vamp Tutor: The 2 life a cost payable on resolution, not an optional cost that produces an effect. You may only pay 2 life and only get one card. Just like with Sonic Burst where you can only discard one card and only do four damage. As for Forbidding Watchtower, only your opponent may activate it's ability that turns it into a creature, since your opponent controls it. If your opponent turns it into a creature, you're then able to Diabolic Edict them and make them sac the Watchtower. [edit: I was wrong. Life is paid on resolution. My bad] __________________ Benthic Behemoth: Much like Morphling, this guy gives you a way to end the game quickly, even if you have to discard your hand, sacrifice all your lands, pay half your life rounded up, and donate three pints of blood during your upkeep. --Rizzo's "review" of 7th Edition GAB Captain Tha Gunslinga [Edited 1 times, lastly by Tha Gunslinga on April 04, 2002]
da-odd-templar Member	posted April 04, 2002 05:32 PM quote: Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga: Vamp Tutor: The 2 life is an additional cost of playing the spell, not an optional cost that produces an effect The life loss doesn't happen until the resolution of the spell. Vampiric Tutor Color: Black Type: Instant Cost: B Sets: VI(R)/6(R) Text(6th): Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it. You lose 2 life. * The loss of 2 life is part of the resolution of the spell. [D'Angelo 1999/05/01] __________________ Stinky cheese is still cheese. Last night I stayed up late playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died. - Stephen Wright Rice Cube - The next Azn Sensation!
Chumleyhack Member	posted April 05, 2002 10:52 AM If I have two 1/1 goblins and a claws of gix, my opponent casts a lunge to do two points to one of my goblins and 2 points to me and I sac the targeted goblin to gain 1 life, can my opponent chose to target my other goblin and still do two points to me, does the lunge simply fizzle because the creature target is gone, or what? Thanks for your help.
HanSolo6385 Member	posted April 05, 2002 01:16 PM Chumleyhack: No, he can not choose to target the other goblin. The damage to the goblin just fizzles. EDIT-You still take the 2 damage. Since targets were already declared. 413.2a If the spell or ability specifies targets, it checks whether the targets are still legal. A target that's removed from play, or from the zone designated by the spell or ability, is illegal. A target may also become illegal if its characteristics changed since the spell or ability was played or if an effect changed the wording of the spell or ability. If all targets are now illegal, the spell or ability is countered. If the spell or ability is not countered it will resolve normally, affecting only the targets that are still legal. If the spell or ability needs to know information about one or more targets that are now illegal, it will use the illegal targets' current or last known information. __________________ Snow King, Ruler of all Penguins! AIM Handle:SURFNSKI4REAL King Woopywoopy of the Penguin Clan The more you know, the more you know you don't know. - Socrates Sign your toploaders!! Orders from the Overlord of Squirrels himself! [Edited 1 times, lastly by HanSolo6385 on April 05, 2002]
SauronDL69 Member	posted April 05, 2002 02:37 PM Does collective restrain count dual lands as the basic land types. example: I have a tundra and a forest in play does my opponent pay 3? __________________ E-mail: SauronDL69@hotmail.com AIM: SauronDL69 #6 top refs in Florida Linelin, High Elf Cleric on Zebuxoruk. All hail Tunare, Mother of All!
JEFFtheY Member	posted April 05, 2002 03:01 PM if i have a looter and a wild mongrel in play and i loot, can i set the looting ability on the stack and discard all the cards in my hand to the mongrel and not discard in the end. __________________ I pose to you a riddle. A condundrum if you will. Whats the difference between a mallard with a cold and you? One's a sick duck and ..... well i forget the rest but your mother's a W H O R E!
elambert24 Member	posted April 05, 2002 03:04 PM quote: Originally posted by JEFFtheY: if i have a looter and a wild mongrel in play and i loot, can i set the looting ability on the stack and discard all the cards in my hand to the mongrel and not discard in the end. You can put the Looter ability on the stack, then ditch your hand to the Mongrel, BUT after the Mongrel's abilities all resolve you will still have to draw 1 card and discard 1 card, and with no hand that means mill for 1. If you are trying to get the card in hand, then pitch to Mongrel without discarding from the Looter, you cannot do that because the draw AND discard all happen upon the resolution of the effect, before anyone has priority again, including yourself. HTH __________________ Check out my auctions
Tha Gunslinga Moderator	posted April 05, 2002 03:20 PM quote: Originally posted by SauronDL69: Does collective restrain count dual lands as the basic land types. example: I have a tundra and a forest in play does my opponent pay 3? Yes. Duals count as both basic land types. __________________ Got Pokemon? Got Magic? Wanna burn things? GAB Vice Admiral Tha Gunslinga
Blastoderm55 Member	posted April 06, 2002 07:49 AM I've got a question regarding Torment's Reborn Hero. Here's the situation. My opponent has threshold but no other creatures. On my turn, I cast Chainer's Edict, targeting him. He chooses to sacrifice the Reborn Hero. When he goes to the graveyard, his ability to return to play triggers and my opponent pays two white to activate it. Do I ever get priority to play a spell such as Cremate in an attempt to remove the Reborn Hero from the game, and if so, does the Reborn Hero still come back to play after being removed from the game. Any insight will be helpful Thanx -blasto also, if I do get priority to cast a Cremate, can my opponent add WW to activate the ability again, placing the effect on the stack after my Cremate? __________________ "Ba-weep-gra-na-weep-mini-bah" -Kup offering energon goody to Sharkticons

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