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TheHamburgler Member	posted April 16, 2002 08:43 AM quote: Originally posted by PlasteredDragon: Flashback cost: affected by things that reduce/increase casting cost? (If I have an emerald medallion out does my CotH flashback for less.) Thanks in advance. yes, you're playing the CotH just as if you were playing it frm your hand, but you aren't. it would flashback for 2G __________________ Robble! Robble! Trade me Atogatogs and Hull Breaches(don't trade the breaches to anthony) Sign your toploaders!
gzeiger Member	posted April 16, 2002 01:48 PM And no, you can't choose to target the same thing multiple times with one spell. Three targets means three different targets. __________________ DCI certified Level 1 judge gzeiger@hotmail.com
Essex Member	posted April 17, 2002 01:55 PM I feel like a idiot for even asking this because I think I know the answer, but if Braids is the only thing left in play during your upkeep, is she sacrificed? I'm
Juzam Lynx Member	posted April 17, 2002 10:18 PM I thought of this question the moment I saw Anurid Brushhopper. Here is a sample situation: Player A: Attack with Anurid Brushhopper. Player B: Block with Erhnam Djinn. Player A: Before damage resolves, activate anurid's ability to remove it from game. Next putting it back in play. Can I do that? or no?
gzeiger Member	posted April 18, 2002 12:25 AM Essex - of course. Braids has no restriction on what is to be sacrificed except that it has to be some type other than enchantment. If Braids is all you have left, then Braids will have to be sacrificed. As somebody mentioned on your other thread, you probably should sacrifice her while you still have something left on the board, though. Juzam Lynx - yes, you can use the Brushhopper's ability any time you could play an instant, which includes after blocking with it. If you do things right, he still gets to deal his damage too (more relevant if the attacker is a Flametongue Kavu than a Djinn).
mulder Member	posted April 18, 2002 08:59 AM Can I counter a flashbacked COTH with a normal counterspell?
Arch-Zealot Member	posted April 18, 2002 09:25 AM mulder: Simply put, yes. __________________ Looking for Gushes How Many I Have: 5 #1 Poster in Connecticut
FatBenSlim Member	posted April 18, 2002 09:49 AM Hi, I have a couple of questions... 1) If my opponent controls a pro -black creature, and I target it with a Terminate ... does it destrooys that creature? or doesn't the spell do anything even if it's multicolor? 2) I use a squirrel opposition deck ... well, me and my mate have been arguing alot about the tapping stuff ... so basically, if I tap 1 of his creature who has a tap-ability, let's take a lianowar elf for instance, does my friend has the right to tap his creature as an instant as a response on me using opposition with 1 of my creatures? so does he gets the green mana? 3) When my opponent attacks me, and i block his 1 creature attcaking me, and my opponent plays a shock on my creaure, thus killing it (be4 the combat damage resolves), does his attacking creature does damage to me? or is it blocked? __________________ "Gnawed to death. Bad way to go."
swiseman Member	posted April 18, 2002 10:10 AM if I use a millstone on my opponent and he cannot put any cards into his graveyard from the top of his library is he dead then or during his upkeep when he cannot draw???
Avatar of Might Member	posted April 18, 2002 10:14 AM Swiseman: Millstone's ability is not a draw effect so it will not cause a player with less than 2 cards in his library to lose. If his library is still empty the next time he has to draw (For example during his next upkeep) only then will he lose. __________________ -Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive. -We had creative differences: I was creative and he was different -If you believe everything you read, better not read. dna@sfsu.edu
Chumleyhack Member	posted April 18, 2002 10:53 AM If I target my opponent's goblin token with my capsize, paying its buyback cost, then he sacrifices the token, does the capsize still return to my hand or does it completely fizzle and go to the graveyard?
Magic Elemental Member	posted April 18, 2002 11:22 AM Just trying to take less space, but what are the deck types Fat Crank and Zevatog? I'm really curious. Thanks.
TheHamburgler Member	posted April 18, 2002 11:32 AM FatBenSlim: 1)a creature with protection from black can not be targeted by black spells, so you cannot terminate it 2)yes, he can repsond to you using opposition by tapping his llanowar elf for G 3)i feel like an idiot, but im not sure about the 3rd one, i know i know it, i just cant think of it right now __________________ Robble! Robble! Trade me Atogatogs and Hull Breaches(don't trade the breaches to anthony) Sign your toploaders!
gzeiger Member	posted April 18, 2002 11:42 AM Chumley - Capsize is countered if it has no legal target when it resolves. Buyback is part of the spell's effect, so if it gets countered it goes to the graveyard. Any way to remove the Capsize's target will counter it. I think Hamburgler gets a medal or something - he may be the first one to admit not knowing an answer rather than just posting some random misleading thing. If a creature is removed before blockers are declared, then it can't block. If a creature is removed after it has been declared as a blocker but befor damage is assigned, the attacker is still blocked but receives no damage. If a creature has been declared as blocking and is removed after damage has been assigned (but before it resolves), the attacker is blocked and will still receive damage from the blocker. __________________ DCI certified Level 1 judge gzeiger@hotmail.com
TheHamburgler Member	posted April 18, 2002 11:56 AM quote: Originally posted by gzeiger: Chumley - Capsize is countered if it has no legal target when it resolves. Buyback is part of the spell's effect, so if it gets countered it goes to the graveyard. Any way to remove the Capsize's target will counter it. I think Hamburgler gets a medal or something - he may be the first one to admit not knowing an answer rather than just posting some random misleading thing. If a creature is removed before blockers are declared, then it can't block. If a creature is removed after it has been declared as a blocker but befor damage is assigned, the attacker is still blocked but receives no damage. If a creature has been declared as blocking and is removed after damage has been assigned (but before it resolves), the attacker is blocked and will still receive damage from the blocker. that's what i was going to say __________________ Robble! Robble! Trade me Atogatogs and Hull Breaches(don't trade the breaches to anthony) Sign your toploaders!
Rey076 Member	posted April 18, 2002 12:20 PM Got a question regarding FoF... Say you have 4 cards left in your library with a FoF in your hand. Can you cast FoF if you can't get 5 cards from your library? Do you lose the game? You're not "drawing" cards so what's the deal?? Thanks.
Clasic Rock Magic Member	posted April 18, 2002 01:29 PM This post is getting too long... anyway... something that i wanna be able to use later. If you declare something a blocker, the creature that it blocked is considered blocked even if it's been given protection, right? (it's given protection after the blocker is declared.. __________________ A rational person adapts himself to fit with the world. An irrational person persistantly tries to adapt the world to fit himself. Therefore, all progress is due to the irrational person. In the pursuit of Rock 'n' Roll Play me apprentice! Yahoo messenger: kayakyakr Aim: myshipnobleblade
gzeiger Member	posted April 18, 2002 02:41 PM If you play Fact or Fiction with fewer than five cards in your library, you will reveal all the cards in your library and deal with them as instructed by the card. You won't lose until you are forced to draw. Giving a creature protection after it has been blocked doesn't keep it from being blocked any more than killing the blocker does. __________________ DCI certified Level 1 judge gzeiger@hotmail.com
TheHamburgler Member	posted April 18, 2002 05:22 PM quote: Originally posted by Clasic Rock Magic: This post is getting too long... anyway... something that i wanna be able to use later. If you declare something a blocker, the creature that it blocked is considered blocked even if it's been given protection, right? (it's given protection after the blocker is declared.. yes, the creature is still blocked. but if it is given protection from the color of the creature blocking it, it prevents the damage __________________ Robble! Robble! Trade me Atogatogs and Hull Breaches(don't trade the breaches to anthony) Sign your toploaders!
Clasic Rock Magic Member	posted April 18, 2002 05:53 PM thanks all... i can't use it in most cases (the newbies are rather confused), but now i know... __________________ A rational person adapts himself to fit with the world. An irrational person persistantly tries to adapt the world to fit himself. Therefore, all progress is due to the irrational person. In the pursuit of Rock 'n' Roll Play me apprentice! Yahoo messenger: kayakyakr Aim: myshipnobleblade
trax72 Member	posted April 19, 2002 02:28 AM FatBenSlim: Just to clarify, you can't even cast the Terminate on a pro:black creature since it's an illegal target. If you would try to do so, the situation would be reversed (the Terminate doesn't fizzle or anything like that). Avatar of Might: The regular draw doesn't happen during upkeep but during the draw step... :] Magic Elemental: Zevatog is a U/B deck featuring Psychatog along with cantrips, bounce and counters. Fat Crank is R/G with mana acceleration and fatties (Call of the Herd, Flametongues etc).
harbingerofthevoid Member	posted April 19, 2002 08:57 PM Okay here's some senarios: In play: Living Plane and Soul Warden: do I gain 1 life for every creature and "land" put play? ie...does living planes effect happen instantly therefore triggering Soul warden? In play: Living plane/grave pact/ zuran orb(et al...): I sack a "land" to gain 2 life. Does each other player sack a creature? ie...when it hits the graveyard does it check as being a creture therefore triggering gravepact?
gzeiger Member	posted April 19, 2002 11:31 PM Yes to both - the lands come into play as creatures and they leave play as creatures. Put another way, continuous effects are applied before trigger conditions are checked.
Rey076 Member	posted April 20, 2002 01:41 AM Just played in a tournament today and there was one dispute.... My opponent had a catalyst stone in play and I think he wanted to flashback a flaming gambit which is RRX i believe. Anyway he had 7 mana to tap, but declared that he would do 7 points of damage. I disagreed because I thought that when reducing the cost of a spell, X always equals 0. Therefore, the catalyst stone would not affect the casting cost for this flashback. No one really knew for sure, but they ruled in favor of my opponent because to them it made more sense. Well I've come to learn that not everything involving rules always make sense. Anyhow this extra 2 pts of damage did make the difference in the game....I would have won the game So what is the correct ruling? Does catalyst stone affect X spells? [Edited 1 times, lastly by Rey076 on April 20, 2002]
elambert24 Member	posted April 20, 2002 06:24 AM quote: Originally posted by Rey076: Just played in a tournament today and there was one dispute.... My opponent had a catalyst stone in play and I think he wanted to flashback a flaming gambit which is RRX i believe. Anyway he had 7 mana to tap, but declared that he would do 7 points of damage. I disagreed because I thought that when reducing the cost of a spell, X always equals 0. Therefore, the catalyst stone would not affect the casting cost for this flashback. No one really knew for sure, but they ruled in favor of my opponent because to them it made more sense. Well I've come to learn that not everything involving rules always make sense. Anyhow this extra 2 pts of damage did make the difference in the game....I would have won the game So what is the correct ruling? Does catalyst stone affect X spells? Yes both Familiars and Catalyst stones affect flashback. X is merely a placeholder and is assigned a value when he announces the spell, thus the CC of the spell upon announcement is 7RR. Catalyst Stone would then reduce the spell by 2, since it is being flashed back, thus he only pays the 7 or 5RR in this case. HTH __________________ Check out my auctions

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