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Topic: Rulings thread #13, Post all rulings questions here
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Dotzcom13
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posted December 10, 2002 06:49 PM
 
what happens if i control a thran lens and a darkest hour and a bop and some lands? what color is the bop?__________________
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da-odd-templar
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posted December 10, 2002 08:13 PM
Whichever came into play most recently (lens or hour) takes effect, and determines the color of the bop.__________________
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coinmagic45
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posted December 11, 2002 09:30 AM
What happens if I have a festering goblin in play, untapped, and my opponent attacks with a 2/2? If I block with the goblin, it deals 2 damage, then dies, so the 2/2 gets -1/-1. Will that kill it, or what?
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KIP_NZ
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posted December 11, 2002 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by coinmagic45:
What happens if I have a festering goblin in play, untapped, and my opponent attacks with a 2/2? If I block with the goblin, it deals 2 damage, then dies, so the 2/2 gets -1/-1. Will that kill it, or what?
Thanx,
coinmagic45
Text from the card search above
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Festering Goblin
Color: Black
Type: Creature - Zombie Goblin
Cost: B
Sets: ON(C)
Text(ON): 1/1. ; When ~this~ is put into a graveyard from play, target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn
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If you decide to target the 2/2 with the triggered ablility then yes it will be a 1/1 that has taken 1 point of damage and therfore dies. Cheeers
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Parco
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posted December 13, 2002 07:12 PM
If I have Malevolent Awakening, I cast Mesmeric Fiend, when it's come into play effect on the stack, I acivate Malevolent Awakening ability(pay 3 mana and sacrifice the Mesmeric Fiend to retur a creature from my graveyard), is it mean that I can permanently remove one nonland card from my opponent hand permanently ? Is it same with Nantuko Husk and Faceless Butcher ?
Pls lmk the correct way to explain to my opponent if he don't understand. Also what is trigger in Magic?Thanks for your help.
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da-odd-templar
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posted December 13, 2002 07:30 PM
Yep that's how it works. Just put a nightmare's come-into-play (cip) ability on the stack, then find a way to remove it from play before it's cip ability resolves. This put's the nightmare's leaves-play (lp) ability on the stack ontop of the cip ability. The lp ability resolves first, does nothing, then the cip resolves, removing the card/creature/whatever forever.For triggers, here's something from the comp. rules... quote:
Trigger, Triggered Ability
A triggered ability begins with the word "when," "whenever," or "at." Whenever the trigger event
occurs, the ability goes on top of the stack the next time a player would receive priority. See rule 404,
"Triggered Abilities."
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Drow
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posted December 13, 2002 08:58 PM
if my opponent has a phantom nantuko in play and it has one counter on it. if i attack with a wild mongrel can my opponent block with the phantom, then tap it to put a counter on it and remove that counter to prevent the damage or does the phantom take lethal damage and die.
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da-odd-templar
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posted December 13, 2002 09:22 PM
Yes your opponent can block, put damage on the stack, use phantom's ability to put a counter onto itself, then let combat damage resolve, and lose the counter it got, thus leaving it with 1 counter.__________________
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Drow
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posted December 13, 2002 09:27 PM
if i have silvos in play i attack with him and my opponent blocks with a fog elemental and a insect token can i put all the damage on one creature and the trample on the player
and one more
if i use skirk fire marshal's ability does he die aswell or does he live because he's got protection from red
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da-odd-templar
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posted December 13, 2002 09:51 PM
You have to assign enough damage to kill the blockers (in this case 5, since the fog elemental's toughness is 4, and the insect's toughness is 1). After that, you can assign the remaining damage to the player.
The marshall lives since he has protection from red.
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SauronDL69
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posted December 14, 2002 10:50 AM
i have a meddling mage set to goblin piledriver can my opponent lackey a piledriver into play?__________________
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FyreStar
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posted December 14, 2002 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by SauronDL69:
i have a meddling mage set to goblin piledriver can my opponent lackey a piledriver into play?
Yes. Meddling Mage only prevents the playing of spells. Putting things into play from your hand is something completely different. __________________
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sugarfreechr1s
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posted December 14, 2002 11:02 PM
Does Pandemonium and Phrexian Dreadnought still work? thanks
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FyreStar
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posted December 14, 2002 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by sugarfreechr1s:
Does Pandemonium and Phrexian Dreadnought still work? thanks
Nope. Phyrexian Dreadnought doesn't even come into play unless you sacrifice creatures with a combined power of 12 or greater. __________________
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Jazaray
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posted December 15, 2002 02:52 PM
do tapped artifacts still have effects? From back when I played often, and still now at my place. They don't. I'm just wondering if that's changed at all.EG: I have out Howling Mine, at the end of my turn, I tap it. As long as it's tapped, noone draws the extra card, correct?
EG: Winter Orb. I tap it at the end of your turn, I can untap all my lands, then the orb. RIght? THanks,
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FyreStar
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posted December 15, 2002 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Jazaray:
do tapped permanents still have effects? From back when I played often, and still now at my place. They don't. I'm just wondering if that's changed at all.EG: I have out Howling Mine, at the end of my turn, I tap it. As long as it's tapped, noone draws the extra card, correct?
EG: Winter Orb. I tap it at the end of your turn, I can untap all my lands, then the orb.
RIght?
THanks,
Jazaray
Permanents still have effects if they are tapped unless it specifically says so in the card text/errata. Both cards in your example do have text that turns them off when they are tapped:
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Howling Mine:
At the beginning of each player's draw step, if ~this~ is untapped, that player draws a card.
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Winter Orb:
As long as ~this~ is untapped, players can't untap more than one land during their untap steps.
Normal permanents keep their abilities when they are tapped. If you want to check the latest wording on your cards, you can go here:
http://www.crystalkeep.com/magic/rules/summaries.html Just type the name of the card in the search box under "Browse Online". __________________
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Jazaray
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posted December 15, 2002 03:04 PM
sorry FyreStar, I meant Artifacts, and typed permanents. My bad.__________________
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FyreStar
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posted December 15, 2002 03:08 PM
No worries, it is the same for Artifacts only as well. For example, an Ankh of Mishra will still deal it's damage if it is tapped, as will Black Vise, and Kormus Bell will still make all swamps creatures if it is tapped. __________________
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Jazaray
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posted December 15, 2002 03:10 PM
Grrrr.. I hate that. It's one way for like 8 years, THEN they say, oh wait.. we decided to change it like ~this~. Just like with trample... GGRRRRRRR
oh, thanks FyreStar
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mulder
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posted December 16, 2002 08:14 AM
2 questions:I play Fact or Fiction, one of the five cards is a Gaea's Blessing. I choose the pile without the Blessing. Do I get to shuffle my graveyard and library together and draw a card, since the cards were "revealed" and not drawn? My opponent has an ernham djinn. During his turn , I turn my Mishra into a creature, so he has to give it forestwalk. Does it still have that ability during my turn, when I transform it into a creature again? Thanks!
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FyreStar
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posted December 16, 2002 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by mulder:
2 questions:I play Fact or Fiction, one of the five cards is a Gaea's Blessing. I choose the pile without the Blessing. Do I get to shuffle my graveyard and library together and draw a card, since the cards were "revealed" and not drawn? My opponent has an ernham djinn. During his turn , I turn my Mishra into a creature, so he has to give it forestwalk. Does it still have that ability during my turn, when I transform it into a creature again? Thanks!
1. Yes. edit: Rather, you get to shuffle, but you don't get to draw a card. That part of Gaea's Blessing is part of the spell's effect, not the triggered ability on the card. 2. If you manage to have your Factory become a creature prior to the beginning of his upkeep, yes. Erhnam's ability triggers before anybody gets a chance to play spells or abilities that turn, and it chooses it's target when it goes on the stack. So, animating Mishra's Factory in response won't allow you to target the Factory. __________________
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da-odd-templar
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posted December 16, 2002 09:19 AM
1. FyreStar, why would he get to draw a card? I thought blessing only shuffled them together...2. FyreStar I think he means, if he successfully found a way to make the mishra a creature before the upkeep on the opponent's turn, and the opponent chose to give the mishra forestwalk, then on his turn, after the mishra went back to land, and he made it a creature again, would it still have forestwalk? Oh yea, I know you don't need to know this, but I have serious gas right now.  __________________
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FyreStar
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posted December 16, 2002 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by da-odd-templar:
1. FyreStar, why would he get to draw a card? I thought blessing only shuffled them together...2. FyreStar I think he means, if he successfully found a way to make the mishra a creature before the upkeep on the opponent's turn, and the opponent chose to give the mishra forestwalk, then on his turn, after the mishra went back to land, and he made it a creature again, would it still have forestwalk? Oh yea, I know you don't need to know this, but I have serious gas right now.
1. You're right, no card draw. I just saw the shuffle part and answered that without looking at the rest. 2. I did answer that despite my explanation about Erhnam - the first sentence of my reply in 2. Thanks for catching that,
FyreStar
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Denizen
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posted December 16, 2002 09:43 AM
If i have a creature like Disciple of Grace in my library, with pro black. Can i still use a black tutor to get it? Or a rebel's ability to get a pro white guy? thanx.__________________
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FyreStar
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posted December 16, 2002 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by Denizen:
If i have a creature like Disciple of Grace in my library, with pro black. Can i still use a black tutor to get it? Or a rebel's ability to get a pro white guy? thanx.
Yes. Protection is only an ability while the creature is in play. It has no effect while in other zones. __________________
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