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Topic: Rulings thread #13, Post all rulings questions here
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AltronDragon
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posted December 20, 2002 11:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by flavor_of_the_weak:
What happens if i play biorhythm and the person i was playing had no creatures in play?
This spell causes the player to "lose" or "gain" enough life to change to the new life total. [Onslaught FAQ 2002/09/24]
If a player controls no creatures when this resolves, their life total will become zero and he or she will lose the game. [Onslaught FAQ 2002/09/24]
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Vampric Doctor
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posted December 21, 2002 03:39 PM
Ok, my opponent has a wall of wood out with a floating shield making it pro black on it. They then tap out to play phantom centaur. I have no cards in my gy. Can I play ghasly demise on the pro black wall of wood to make demise go in my gy then circular logic the centaur?__________________
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FyreStar
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posted December 21, 2002 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by Vampric Doctor:
Ok, my opponent has a wall of wood out with a floating shield making it pro black on it. They then tap out to play phantom centaur. I have no cards in my gy. Can I play ghasly demise on the pro black wall of wood to make demise go in my gy then circular logic the centaur?
No. One of the attributes of a creature with protection from black is that black spells and abilities cannot target it. Since you can't announce a spell without a legal target, you wouldn't be able to cast Ghastly Demise. __________________
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Drow
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posted December 23, 2002 10:17 AM
if i have aquameoba in play 1/3 and i have hero's resolve on it (target creature gets +1+5) then discard a card to it does it become a 8/2 or does it stay the same?
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magic_crazy
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posted December 23, 2002 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Drow:
if i have aquameoba in play 1/3 and i have hero's resolve on it (target creature gets +1+5) then discard a card to it does it become a 8/2 or does it stay the same?
It becomes an 8/2. Just because the +1/+5 comes from an enchantment doesn't mean you don't take it into account when using abilities such as that. __________________
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mabramovich
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posted December 23, 2002 02:18 PM
Fine!I have a question then. If all the creatures were updated to say Fear, would you still be able to cast Alter Reality, since the cannot be blocked except by black is now only reminder text? There. Answer. Now. Thanks. __________________
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aceracer
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posted December 23, 2002 02:30 PM
if i have a soulcatchers aerie and a bird token i control dies, does the aerie get the feather counter? (i heard from somebody that the counter enteres the graveyard and then is removed from the game, so it would get the feather counter)
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FyreStar
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posted December 23, 2002 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by mabramovich:
I have a question then. If all the creatures were updated to say Fear, would you still be able to cast Alter Reality, since the cannot be blocked except by black is now only reminder text?
No. Fear is a keyword ability. The word 'black' doesn't appear anywhere in the ability itself, so it cannot be changed. quote:
Originally posted by aceracer:
if i have a soulcatchers aerie and a bird token i control dies, does the aerie get the feather counter? (i heard from somebody that the counter enteres the graveyard and then is removed from the game, so it would get the feather counter)
It does get a counter. Token creatures disappear when they are anywhere other than 'in play', but they still count as being put into the graveyard. __________________
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AJWhite
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posted December 23, 2002 04:52 PM
if mystic decree is in play can morphling gain flying?
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mabramovich
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posted December 23, 2002 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by FyreStar:
No. Fear is a keyword ability. The word 'black' doesn't appear anywhere in the ability itself, so it cannot be changed.
Yes, but all the old cards (Shadowmage Inifltartor, for one) were updated to say fear. That is what I was asking. Wow, some people's decks from my store are dead.
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FyreStar
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posted December 23, 2002 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by mabramovich:
Yes, but all the old cards (Shadowmage Inifltartor, for one) were updated to say fear. That is what I was asking. Wow, some people's decks from my store are dead.
Yes; old cards now say "Fear." Therefore, they can't be Alter Reality'd.
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mabramovich
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posted December 23, 2002 06:02 PM
^ Thanks ^__________________
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MordainThade
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posted December 23, 2002 08:39 PM
Is it possible to pull the Nightmare trick using Parallax Wave, Tide, etc. Example: stack up 5 "remove target creature from game" using a Wave, then before the effects resolve, Disenchant it, causing it's "put the creatures back" effect to happen before the creatures are removed. It seems like it should work, but I just want to be sure.Also, here's another one for you all. I have a Faceless Butcher (with my Gilded Drake that an opponent controlled removed) and a Recurring Nightmare in play, and a Butcher in grave. Is it possible to return the Nightmare and sac the in-play Butcher to get the dead Butcher, and simultaneously steal an opponent's creature with the Drake that comes into play as soon as I sac the 1st Butcher? __________________
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Scopes13mtg
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posted December 24, 2002 11:13 AM
Did they ever make a rule that mana sources can't cast other mana sources? (ex. No more dark rituals to cast other dark rituals) I heard that rule somewhere and I'm not sure how true it is. When you think about it it doesn't make sense...the first dark ritual isn't casting the second one; the mana is being sent away for use later, and then you are pulling one out to cast another dark ritual, the source shouldn't matter. Oh well, does anyone know for sure?__________________
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TheFireStarter
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posted December 24, 2002 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Scopes13mtg:
Did they ever make a rule that mana sources can't cast other mana sources? (ex. No more dark rituals to cast other dark rituals) I heard that rule somewhere and I'm not sure how true it is. When you think about it it doesn't make sense...the first dark ritual isn't casting the second one; the mana is being sent away for use later, and then you are pulling one out to cast another dark ritual, the source shouldn't matter. Oh well, does anyone know for sure?
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FyreStar
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posted December 24, 2002 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by MordainThade:
Is it possible to pull the Nightmare trick using Parallax Wave, Tide, etc. Example: stack up 5 "remove target creature from game" using a Wave, then before the effects resolve, Disenchant it, causing it's "put the creatures back" effect to happen before the creatures are removed. It seems like it should work, but I just want to be sure.Also, here's another one for you all. I have a Faceless Butcher (with my Gilded Drake that an opponent controlled removed) and a Recurring Nightmare in play, and a Butcher in grave. Is it possible to return the Nightmare and sac the in-play Butcher to get the dead Butcher, and simultaneously steal an opponent's creature with the Drake that comes into play as soon as I sac the 1st Butcher?
1. No. Parallax Wave has been issued errata to include this line:
"Remove a fade counter from ~this~: Remove target creature from the game if ~this~ is in play.
Parallax Tide has received similar errata. 2. I'm not sure I understand; who controlled the Gilded Drake before it was trapped under a Butcher? If it was you, then yes you can exchange the Drake for a creature of your opponent's. Then the other Butcher will come into play and you can trap a creature with that. If your opponent controlled the Drake before it was originally trapped, it comes back under his control, so he could exchange it for one of your creatures. edit: Ignore 2 and read what gzeiger said below.
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by FyreStar on December 24, 2002]
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Titan33
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posted December 24, 2002 02:54 PM
hey a delema that the rules dont quite explain fully?
my brother plays a steely resolve
at this point i have a circular logic a deep analysis and 2 other cards in my hand. i also have a zombie infestation on the board.
i ask him what creature type, he then says its in play because i asked him what creature type he is naming, i took this to mean he did not give me priority. (i would have countered the spell with the circular logic).
my question is : dosen't a STATEMENT not a QUESTION signify that i passed priority.
and should have his proper response be that he does not have to name it yet. instead of the spell simply comming into play.
please let me know
thanks
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potm
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posted December 24, 2002 03:01 PM
like cards like Wash out, the caster does not have to name any variables like color or creaturetypes until priority has been passed. So basically, since you asked for the creaturetype, you ignored your chance to response to it. In future reference, be wary of this.. __________________
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gzeiger
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posted December 24, 2002 07:21 PM
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2. I'm not sure I understand; who controlled the Gilded Drake before it was trapped under a Butcher? If it was you, then yes you can exchange the Drake for a creature of your opponent's. Then the other Butcher will come into play and you can trap a creature with that. If your opponent controlled the Drake before it was originally trapped, it comes back under his control, so he could exchange it for one of your creatures.
That's not right at all; Nightmares return the creature to its owner's control regardless of who last controlled it. They say so on the card  I think the question was whether the same Drake could both be swapped and Butchered as a result of the event described. It can.You have to stack the Butcher ability first, targeting the Drake, then the Drake targeting another creature. Make the swap, then remove the Drake from the game again.
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FyreStar
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posted December 24, 2002 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by gzeiger:
That's not right at all; Nightmares return the creature to its owner's control regardless of who last controlled it. They say so on the card
Heh, they sure do. One of these days I'll remember to read the cards before shooting my mouth off. Thanks.
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*Tedman*
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posted December 24, 2002 10:12 PM
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