posted November 08, 2002 09:33 AM            

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posted November 08, 2002 09:47 AM         

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Originally posted by jbp26:
Another question. Say I play a card like Lay of the Land, that targets any basic land in my library (or in play, just not for this example). Can I pick a dual land? I know its non-basic, but duals state explicity that they count as both forms of the corresponding basic land (ex. Taiga counts as a mountain and a forest).

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No you cant. They are non basic lands.

There are 5 basic lands
Swamp
Mountian
Forest
Island
Plains

It says none of these at the top, so is NOT a basic land.

However once it is in play, it satisifies stuff that counts "basic land TYPES" like allied strategy. But you cannoy lay of the land it into play. However, you can sac land it into play as sac lands say "get a plains OR island" not "a basic land"

posted November 09, 2002 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by 4zN h0bb1t:
i mean that face down creature is still ebonblade reaper and the first part should come in right? or is my friend correct?

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Your friend is correct. Here's why: Abilities are written as text on cards. When a card is face down, it is considered to have no text. Flipping the Reaper face-up doesn't make it look back in time to see if it attacked. Flipping it face-up simply gives the card certain abilities, one of which triggers when he is declared as an attacker.

Ebonblade Reaper was designed with this trick in mind; just something to make people careful when allowing face-down cards to attack unblocked. This lack of abilities while face down also solves several other problems like "I'm playing a creature with morph, but he has flying. Trust me."

posted November 10, 2002 06:20 AM            

2-On Amber Prison, read question 1, and, do you have to keep the 4 mana tapped?

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posted November 10, 2002 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Shadow88:
Simple uestions that I got into a small argument about:
1-On Icy Manipulator, does the card stay tapped during it's controllers untap phase, or, if you want to keep a creature or whatever from attacking, do you have to tap it after unap phase and before attack phase?

2-On Amber Prison, read question 1, and, do you have to keep the 4 mana tapped?

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1. Icy Manipulator only taps something, it doesn't "hold it down". Their creature will untap normally during their untap phase, so you'd have to tap it again before they attacked with it.

2. Amber Prison does keep it's target tapped, but you don't have to keep four mana tapped for it. You pay four mana to activate it the first time, and that is all.

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Originally posted by Lord Titi:
What if I play a ...-coat (which says enchanted creature can't be the target of spells or abilities) on a flagbearer??

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Then players could target other creatures normally. You only have to target the Flagbearer if you can target the Flagbearer. Otherwise, it's restriction doesn't apply.

posted November 10, 2002 08:42 AM            

So, here goes:

The sitiuatuion is this:
I have a Enchantress Presence and a Words of Wind in play, and then play a Wild Growth on a land.
Question
.. Can i put 'draw a card' on stack, and then activate Words of wind, to return the 'just played' wild growth to my hand?
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And now a question about Phasing...
When a creature with phasing, phases in - is it then considered as 'comes in to play' ?
Like, if I give Nekrataal phasing - will it then destroy a creature when it phases in?

posted November 10, 2002 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Quark:
Allright. I've got a couple of questions wich miiight have been answered allready, but I am not going to browse all questions/answers

So, here goes:

The sitiuatuion is this:
I have a Enchantress Presence and a Words of Wind in play, and then play a Wild Growth on a land.
Question
.. Can i put 'draw a card' on stack, and then activate Words of wind, to return the 'just played' wild growth to my hand?
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And now a question about Phasing...
When a creature with phasing, phases in - is it then considered as 'comes in to play' ?
Like, if I give Nekrataal phasing - will it then destroy a creature when it phases in?

..Thx for your time

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1. No. Enchantress's Presence triggers as soon as you play the card, before it has a chance to resolve. So, when the "draw a card" ability, or in this case "return a permanent you control to your hand" ability
resolves, Wild Growth is not yet in play.

2. No. Phasing works in such a way that phasing something in doesn't trigger it's "comes into play" abilities. However, phasing something out does trigger it's "leaves play" abilities. From the Comprehensive Rules:

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502.15d Permanents phasing in don’t trigger any comes-into-play abilities, and effects that modify how a permanent comes into play are ignored.

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posted November 10, 2002 04:43 PM         

if you have a double pariah on one creature is the damage doubled? (I don't think it is, but just checking for sure)

if you have a pariah on two different creatures, how is damage dealt?

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posted November 10, 2002 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Maxaramus:
okay, two questions about pariah:

if you have a double pariah on one creature is the damage doubled? (I don't think it is, but just checking for sure)

if you have a pariah on two different creatures, how is damage dealt?

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1. No, it's a replacement ability. This means the first pariah will redirect the damage, and basically, the 2nd one will be like "huh? What damage? Oh that damage, well it's already been redirected, so I'm just gonna hang around here and crack a pack of smokes."

2. "* If you have more than one Pariah in play, you get to choose which one gets the damage. [D'Angelo 1999/01/20] "

posted November 10, 2002 08:34 PM         

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posted November 11, 2002 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by gzeiger:
Yes, he gets the bonus again.

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posted November 11, 2002 10:54 PM            

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Originally posted by darkmage777:
hey got a quick question about getting rid of a Stronghold Taskmaster.

Can i steel it with a Guilded Drake, play a Cavern Harpy, put Harpy's ability on the stack and bounce the Taskmaster?

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yes, the Harpy's ability is activated once it's being cast and only if it's not countered. the taskmaster is in your possession, the harpy's ability triggers once it's not being declared as getting countered, thus it will search for a blue and/or black creature you control and return it to it's owner's hand. so as the harpy finally enters play, the taskmaster will be in it's owner's hand and the harpy will be safe.

hopefully i'm right. i think i understand the gating ability.

posted November 11, 2002 11:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Selvaxri:
yes, the Harpy's ability is activated once it's being cast and only if it's not countered. the taskmaster is in your possession, the harpy's ability triggers once it's not being declared as getting countered, thus it will search for a blue and/or black creature you control and return it to it's owner's hand. so as the harpy finally enters play, the taskmaster will be in it's owner's hand and the harpy will be safe.

hopefully i'm right. i think i understand the gating ability.

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Stronghold Taskmaster
Color: Black
Type: Creature - Minion
Cost: 2BB
Sets: SH(U)
Text(SH): 4/3. ; All other black creatures get -1/-1.

Cavern Harpy
Color: Multi
Type: Creature - Beast
Cost: UB
Sets: PS(C)
Text(PS): 2/1, Flying. ; When ~this~ comes into play, return a blue or black creature you control to its owner's hand. ; Pay 1 life: Return ~this~ to its owner's hand.

After he steals it with gilded drake, the board looks like:

Him - stronghold taskmaster.

Opponent - gilded drake.

He then plays cavern harpy. Before the harpy's gating cip ability goes on the stack, state based effects are checked and the harpy is a 1/0. Thus it dies. Then it's cip ability goes on the stack, and assuming no other critters are gonna be on his side, the taskmaster is the only legal target for the harpy's cip ability on resolution, so the taskmaster goes back to it's controller's hand. However a harpy cannot ever return itself with it's ability when a stronghold taskmaster is out.

posted November 11, 2002 11:58 PM            

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