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Topic: Rulings thread #13, Post all rulings questions here
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TunaBoo Member
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posted October 08, 2002 11:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by hulk3rules: ok, what's your guys opinion on this, i think it works. my oponnent taps my land using a opposition and a creature. i cast teferi's response. opposition dies. correct, or am i wrong?
Yes, that is why tog played it in SB to cunning wish for. It sure wasn't to protect a LOA from wastelands.
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MagicMystic Member
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posted October 09, 2002 11:39 AM
Say you have an elvish champion out, and a couple 2/2 elves (without the champion bonus), if somebody plays pyroclasm, would the elves die?__________________ I know the best things in life are free, but why are the second best so expensive?
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iiven Member
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posted October 09, 2002 01:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by MagicMystic: Say you have an elvish champion out, and a couple 2/2 elves (without the champion bonus), if somebody plays pyroclasm, would the elves die?
All creatures are assigned 2 damage. This causes champion to die. All elves revert back to 2/2's. Since they have 2 damage assigned to them this turn they all die.
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Swimmer Member
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posted October 09, 2002 05:22 PM
Does Machine Head still work? I read the rules and it said something about numbers, so can you do the enduring renewal combo and pick like 10000000000?
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Malice240 Member
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posted October 10, 2002 12:30 PM
I got a few questions....If i use elvish piper to put a card from my hand into play and its a creature with morph, can i put it into play facedown? If i play a spell and use mirari and the spell is countered does the copy still go through? If i attack with nantuko husk and 2 other creatures, can i have them deal combat damage and then sac them to the husk to deal even more combat damage? __________________ Existance is futile.
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FyreStar Member
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posted October 10, 2002 12:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Malice240: I got a few questions....If i use elvish piper to put a card from my hand into play and its a creature with morph, can i put it into play facedown? If i play a spell and use mirari and the spell is countered does the copy still go through? If i attack with nantuko husk and 2 other creatures, can i have them deal combat damage and then sac them to the husk to deal even more combat damage?
1) No. Morph is an ability, and playing the card face down for 3 generic mana is part of the ability. 2) Yes. The original and its copy occupy two spots on the stack. Countering one does not affect the other. 3) No. (Well, not unless the two other creatures have first strike.) Normal combat damage is assigned all at the same time. So the Husk's unpumped damage would already be on the stack, and sacrificing creatures wouldn't affect the damage it would deal. __________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
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carnage Member
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posted October 10, 2002 02:17 PM
ok kind of a dumb question but ohwell... I have a pro-green creature out and my friend says he can block with a green creature and that his creature doesnt deal damage i say he cant block who is right. and where could i find an official rulling on this too.__________________ Which would you like first, the insult or the injury? I collect Serra Avatar's so if you have any please lmk thanks!!
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FyreStar Member
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posted October 10, 2002 02:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by carnage: ok kind of a dumb question but ohwell... I have a pro-green creature out and my friend says he can block with a green creature and that his creature doesnt deal damage i say he cant block who is right. and where could i find an official rulling on this too.
A creature that is green cannot block a creature that has "protection from green". Here's a link to the official rules: Magic: the Gathering Comprehensive Rulebook Protection is covered in the glossary near the bottom, here's the relevent quote: quote: Protection is a static ability. A permanent with protection from [quality] can't be targeted by [quality] spells, targeted by abilities from a [quality] source, or enchanted by [quality] enchantments. Such enchantments enchanting the permanent with protection will be put into their owners' graveyards as a state-based effect. If a creature with protection attacks, it can't be blocked by [quality] creatures. In addition, all damage dealt to it from [quality] sources is prevented. See rule 502.7, "Protection."
__________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
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TunaBoo Member
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posted October 11, 2002 08:42 AM
Let me make sure I have my jackal pup rules down. If you block a 5/5 with a pup, you take 5.
If you block a 5/5 trampler with a pup, you take 5. Correct?
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elambert24 Member
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posted October 11, 2002 10:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by TunaBoo: Let me make sure I have my jackal pup rules down. If you block a 5/5 with a pup, you take 5.
If you block a 5/5 trampler with a pup, you take 5. Correct?
Yes on both accounts.
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TunaBoo Member
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posted October 11, 2002 10:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by elambert24: Yes on both accounts.
Thanks sir!
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dragon172 Member
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posted October 11, 2002 02:40 PM
How does an Enchant World work in an Emperor game? Does it affect everybody, or does it just affect people that you can "see"?
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PlasteredDragon Member
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posted October 12, 2002 04:26 PM
1. Sac Nosy Goblin to destroy a morph creature, opponent unmorphs it in response... does it still die?2. Sac Riptide Shapeshifter, name "Bird". First bird to come up is "Sage Aven". Can you wait until after shuffling the revealed cards in your library before examining/reordering the top 4, or does the comes-into-play effect of the bird happen before you shuffle? Thanks in advance. __________________ -- PlasteredDragon A.K.A. Chuck Seggelin * ebayID: PDragon616THE STONE RAIN PROJECT: I want your foreign or unusual Stone Rain cards!
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FyreStar Member
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posted October 12, 2002 05:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlasteredDragon: 1. Sac Nosy Goblin to destroy a morph creature, opponent unmorphs it in response... does it still die?2. Sac Riptide Shapeshifter, name "Bird". First bird to come up is "Sage Aven". Can you wait until after shuffling the revealed cards in your library before examining/reordering the top 4, or does the comes-into-play effect of the bird happen before you shuffle?
1) No. The targetting conditions for Nosy Goblin specify a face-down creature. Since targetting conditions are rechecked when the ability tries to resolve, and the creature is no longer face-down, the ability is countered. 2) You must wait until you have shuffled your library before you can look at the top four cards and rearrange them. Abilities must resolve completely before other effects can be added to the stack, and shuffling the revealed cards into your library is part of the Shapeshifter's ability.
__________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
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PlasteredDragon Member
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posted October 12, 2002 08:33 PM
Thanks FyreStar... u da man.One more dumb Morph question... from the Onslaugh rules insert: "Turning a card face up doesn't use the stack so your opponent can't respond." Imagine this scenario: Guy attacks me with morphed creature. I block with a 2/2 whatever. In response to my declaring a blocker (before damage goes on the stack) he unmorphs his critter revealing it to be a Blistering Firecat. I'm holding Backslide, but unless I'm mistaken, the only thing I can respond to at this point is damage going on the stack after which point it no longer makes sense to Backslide the cat and kill it with my 2/2 whatever. Is that correct? __________________ -- PlasteredDragon A.K.A. Chuck Seggelin * ebayID: PDragon616THE STONE RAIN PROJECT: I want your foreign or unusual Stone Rain cards!
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gzeiger Member
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posted October 12, 2002 11:19 PM
No, it doesn't work like that at all."Can't respond" just means that there's nothing you can do that will happen before the Firecat is turned face-up. For example, you couldn't Shock a Grinning Demon "in response" to your opponent turning it over - no matter what you do it will be a 6/6 when your Shock goes off. In the example you describe, blockers have been declared, and the attacking player has one effect: he turns over the Firecat for its cost of RR. He then has priority to do other stuff, and when he passes, you get priority to do stuff, including Backslide. If you do, he has another chance to play spells or abilities, including Morphing the Firecat again if he has sufficient mana available. __________________ DCI certified Level 2 judge gzeiger@hotmail.com
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Denizen Member
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posted October 13, 2002 09:20 AM
need some clarification -if i have a black knight and my opponent has a white knight, can i attack and if so what will happen? if i tinker out a riptide replicator, it wont have any counters on it to make any creatures, correct? __________________ Collect: Phyrexian Infiltrator = 15 Wild Research = 13 Cops & Rops = 148
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iiven Member
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posted October 13, 2002 09:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Denizen: need some clarification -if i have a black knight and my opponent has a white knight, can i attack and if so what will happen? if i tinker out a riptide replicator, it wont have any counters on it to make any creatures, correct?
1: Neither night can block another one. So you are both free to attack, since youo can not block or be blocked by the opposing night. 2: The replicator will come in with X as 0, and be able to make 0/0's which die immidiatly On that note! Does a 0/0 hit the graveyard? i understand that token creatures do hit the graveyard and trigger effects of creatures entering the grave, so i assume a 0/0 would too __________________ Its not a weeble, it will fall. I like my salad... tossed.
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FyreStar Member
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posted October 13, 2002 03:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by iiven: Does a 0/0 hit the graveyard? i understand that token creatures do hit the graveyard and trigger effects of creatures entering the grave, so i assume a 0/0 would too
Yes. They hit the graveyard and immediately vanish as tokens do when in a zone other than 'In Play'. __________________ You can't cheat an honest man.
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KIP_NZ Member
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posted October 13, 2002 04:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by dragon172: How does an Enchant World work in an Emperor game? Does it affect everybody, or does it just affect people that you can "see"?
Depends on what rules you and the rest of the players decide on. In my local game it does. __________________ Adrian Proudly not Hansolo's Sweetchecks Visit http://www.magictutorial.com Repeat after me "Han is a fruitcake" How Many of you have a Screen Shot of your Profile with 1000 posts? I Do and yes I do have a life..
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Squirrel Ritual Member
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posted October 13, 2002 10:53 PM
i was wondering what happens if a creature attacks (1/1)then I use catapult squad's effect, what happens does it die or does it do 1 damage to me (unblocked) then dies
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Gabethebabe Member
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posted October 14, 2002 02:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Squirrel Ritual: i was wondering what happens if a creature attacks (1/1)then I use catapult squad's effect, what happens does it die or does it do 1 damage to me (unblocked) then dies
If you play well, you will kill the attacking creature, before it does damage. You get priority in the declare attackers and declare blockers step to take out the creature. if you fail to do so and wait until after combat damage is assigned, you will receive one damage from the attacking creature.__________________ GtBBlack Lotus count: 1
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mulder Member
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posted October 14, 2002 08:47 AM
This is perhaps a stupid question but... If I have a few morphed creatures out, and my opponent knows what creatures they are (Spy Network or something), can I "shuffle" them so he doesn't know which is which any more?
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iiven Member
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posted October 14, 2002 11:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by mulder: This is perhaps a stupid question but... If I have a few morphed creatures out, and my opponent knows what creatures they are (Spy Network or something), can I "shuffle" them so he doesn't know which is which any more?
absolutely not! one of the main rules of morph is that you may in no way attempt to decieve your opponent by stacking/shuffling/ mixxing your morphed creatures up. You are even suppose to mark the order they come into play with markers of some kind to keep it strait. __________________ Its not a weeble, it will fall. I like my salad... tossed.
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iccarus Member
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posted October 14, 2002 07:51 PM
Mistform creatures are turning into a bit of a headache here...scenarioI activate the ability on: Mistform Shrieker Flying. 1: Mistform Shrieker's type becomes the creature type of your choice until end of turn. Morph 3UU changing it to a wizard...then I target it with... Ghosthelm Courier You may choose not to untap Ghosthelm Courier during your untap step. 2U, Tap: As long as Ghosthelm Courier remains tapped, target Wizard gets +2/+2 and can't be the target of spells or abilities. Now, does the ability from the courier go away at the end of the turn when the mistform changes back into its original type? or does the courier ability only check for type when you tap it and it's effect stays on the wizard changed back to mistform? __________________ I am the e-bay king, I will buy anything!AIM: arbecke MTGO: iccarus
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